2003 Cross-Fire (Tight Slalom)

Gareth Roe · Post by **Gareth Roe** » Mon May 19, 2003 5:41 pm

<b>RoeRacing 2003!</b>
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Got Carbon?

Vlad Popov · Post by **Vlad Popov** » Tue May 20, 2003 2:48 am

Even though Advanced Systems Plankk-R does not have or believe in carbon, we do believe in Tight Slalom. It is good to see a TS deck on the market! A couple more of those and Plankk-R will close its doors forever for its purpose will be fulfilled.

Bravo Roe!

Your wooden friends.

Terry Kirby · Post by **Terry Kirby** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 5:40 am

I drilled mine yesterday along w/ Jim Seiners Bullet. My axel to axel is around 20.25 and I can't imagine a course being too tech or tight for this deck. I have 4" PVD's on it with hard cambrias and it grips like GI Joe with life like hair. I can't wait for that TS wussy John Gilmour to set one of his John Gilmour courses so I can crush him on my new cross fire.. Thanks Gareth.
PS once again the flex is perfect.

Terry Kirby · Post by **Terry Kirby** » Sun Jun 15, 2003 2:10 am

Just rode it in cones today. 5 foot on center....yes please.

Sam Gordon · Post by **Sam Gordon** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 3:52 pm

I ran one of the Kevlar-based pre-production CrossFires on the flat at Hyde Park, following Paul Price's Thursday markings as closely as was viable (6-7ft mixed offset). At the end of the couse I put eight cones straight, five feet each apart in order to test the TS capacity of this deck.

The CrossFire was set up with the now standard RTX/S mix and light grey Cambrias (front wedged forward, back 1/4" flat).

My first impression is that the board is very stiff, especially laterally (not surprising given it's width), allowing just enough vertical flex for a snappy feel. On running the 17.5" wheelbase the board felt very alive and not dissimilar to a foam-core; it's stiffness made it feel immediate and very responsive, especially when pumping. Despite the shorter wheelbase, the Crossfire went through the longer turns easily, allowing extra confidence for the offsets because of the larger surface area in comparison to my current Roe, the Stinger GS model. Having a large platform directly over the rear truck allowed firmer pumping and afforded greater grip than I usually obtain. The rear wheels broke only rarely in mid-turn, but this was due to a combination of poor technique and flat-risered rear truck too tight. An offset truck would be overkill. The board carved through the final five foot straight cones after I'd scrubbed off speed on the wider offsets, proving that it works equally well on the tight as it does on the larger spacings.

As a mid-field Ameteur rider, the CrossFire flattered my abilities and suggested that it could be pushed a lot harder than I took it. Plenty of grip, stable with a broad platform, this TS machine covers a larger range of disciplines than its size suggested. Like it lots!

Eddy Martinez · Post by **Eddy Martinez** » Tue Aug 26, 2003 11:05 pm

Got my Crossfire this morning RT-X front wedged,RT-S Offset back,slight wedge. Cambrias 82-86s. Oust bearings. I went through thoese 5 ft 7 inch cones like a madman. It was like butter. Amazing board very quick,turns on a dime. I highly recommend this board for tight slalom. You Da Man Gareth. Eddy Texas Outlaw.

Claude Regnier · Post by **Claude Regnier** » Wed Aug 27, 2003 5:50 am

Well, I'm having some fun with Midtracks and Magnesium baseplates. Feels pretty nice. I'll give you more details as It gets Pumped to Life ( a better life, that is).

The few sessions with the Midtracks we're nice. Would work really well for very,very Tight TS> But it hurts my knee's too much. So.

Okay so today the Midtracks we're removed. They we're replaced with the Tracker X-S combination. I actually never tried it but by the end of her 1rst day of slalom Mia (new from Montreal) was making the course clean. The board is in Montreal until it's ordered replacement arrives.

This board works great as Mary-Beth has been using the past week and it may possibly replace the (Comet/Cross, West Virginia Prize, Thanks) I loaned her till we got something to replace it.

I am not sure what Flex the Roe is? Maybe TK or Gareth would let me know. You know the one from Da Farm race. Thanks

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Many Happy Pumps!

Claude Regnier · Post by **Claude Regnier** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 6:14 am

I am not sure what Flex the Roe is? Maybe TK or Gareth would let me know. You know the one from Da Farm race. Thanks

Gareth Roe · Post by **Gareth Roe** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 4:43 pm

Claude-
The CrossFire you have is a Medium/Stiff. If you are finding that it is too stiff, re-drill it with a longer wheelbase. There is plenty of room in the nose and tail to go out atleast a half inch on each end.

The extensive research we have conducted here at the RoeRacing training grounds and board testing facilities, has indicated that for tighter courses a stiffer board is faster! The clock doesn't lie. There is, however, a trade-off between comfort and performance. My legs ache to no end after riding my shorter, stiffer boards. I find that I have to work them much harder than my longer, softer boards - but the results are well worth it.

Glad you are enjoying your ever-growing quiver of RoeRacing boards. Hope to see you in a couple of weeks at MB.
Take care my friend-
Gareth

Claude Regnier · Post by **Claude Regnier** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 12:45 am

Thanks Gareth. I actually have hardly had a chance to ride it at all. It has been in Montreal since teaching Mia on Sat. and Sun.

She will hold onto it until I return with her new one from Morro Bay. I needed to know what flex it was to make sure her new one is the right flex.

I am also going to need a second one for another beginer who spent the first week ridding the Crossfire until it went to Montreal.

It's a tough life actually getting a chance to ride different models. I am going to need something to bring back for me. I'm thinking the S-Camber.

By the way I drilled out the WB on the Bottle Rocket because I was finding it a little too stiff. Of course the 22 lbs. I lost may have attributed to it somewhat.

Wesley Tucker · Post by **Wesley Tucker** » Thu Sep 11, 2003 1:10 am

You know, I'm so clever it sometimes makes my head hurt!

Back in JANUARY on Mike Maysey's Q&A Forum on NCDSA, I wrote on 1/28/2003:

"Mike, you asked about Flex for different courses (hey, who's in charge around here anyway?)

Think of it this way: what's the suspension like on a drag racer? Conversely, how much design time goes into the suspension and handling of a Formula 1 car?

Both are completely legitimate forms of racing, but each have very unique and almost completely seperate requirements. Think of the "TS Board" as a drag racer: straight down the course, maximum speed, minimum handling and maximum ability to transmit horsepower to the pavement.

The "GS Board," though, needs to swing wide, stay in control, maintain momentum through the chicanes and still accelerate to the next turn without giving up a minimum of speed."

Now, here it is in September and Gareth reports, " . . . The extensive research we have conducted here at the RoeRacing training grounds and board testing facilities, has indicated that for tighter courses a stiffer board is faster! The clock doesn't lie. There is, however, a trade-off between comfort and performance. My legs ache to no end after riding my shorter, stiffer boards. I find that I have to work them much harder than my longer, softer boards - but the results are well worth it."

Does everyone realize the tremendous benefit they would enjoy in the quality of life if everyone WOULD JUST LISTEN TO ME? Gareth could have saved himself 9 months of research by just reading my words, commiting them to memory and then living by them every day in every way.

What can I say? I'm a prodigy. I'm just a prodigy.

Terry Kirby · Post by **Terry Kirby** » Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:11 am

Even my 34" Holl is stiff as hell. Gs deck all the way. Fast. TK

RL · Post by RL » Sat Nov 08, 2003 6:05 am

Gareth,
How can i get a Crossfire in medium flex? Seems all the mail order shops have them in Med/ stiff.
I weigh 150lbs and I dont want to stiff a deck.
I've seen photo's of colored Roe decks, are they available in the PS?
Thanks

Gareth Roe · Post by **Gareth Roe** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 8:54 am

Ric-
All you have to do is ask! Send your request to sales@roeslalom.com and we will build you a board that will match your weight and desired flex.

The colored RoeRacing boards were special addition boards that were expertly painted by Corey Moi here in Seattle. Corey does incredible work! It is not cheap - more than what the Performance Board costs alone. We have not scheduled any PS boards to be painted.

Colors - lets see what 2004 has in store - as we may have a few surprises up our sleeves!!:->

Gareth Roe
RoeRacing Slalom Skateboards

Hunter Singleton · Post by **Hunter Singleton** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 3:48 am

Gareth, Glenn said you might be able to press a lighter flex board. could you do this, and /or how much would it be1

Gareth Roe · Post by **Gareth Roe** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:17 am

Hunter-
We have the ability to press boards that are very stiff and boards that are very soft - and almost everything in between!

We have five standard flex patterns that we can build our Performance Series boards in; soft (under 120), medium (120-160), med/stiff (160-190), stiff (190-220) and extra stiff (over 220). One of these lay-ups will most likely do the trick!

Beyond our "standard" lay-ups, we can do individually tailored lay-ups for a rider by taking out or adding in layers of wood, glass or carbon fiber to widen the flex range significantly. The possible combinations are too numerous to list. Our "plain-jane" default lay-up is the Med/Stiff and it seems to work great for riders who are looking for a very responsive, quick reacting board that is not a too soft or twisty.

Let us know your weight, what type of flex and ride characteristic you want, the model of the board you want to order and we can build a board with the lay-up that best matches your needs.

Custom flex at a stock board price!

Hope this helps!
Gareth
RoeRacing Slalom Skateboards

Hunter Singleton · Post by **Hunter Singleton** » Wed Nov 26, 2003 1:36 am

i weigh about 150 and am still growing. i like ggod flex but not too much that it feels mushy.

P.S. I cant find out on some web sites what msrp is!

Gareth Roe · Post by **Gareth Roe** » Wed Nov 26, 2003 3:17 am

Hunter-

The current manufacturers Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) for the 2003 RoeRacing Slalom boards are as follows:

Performance Series CrossFire - US$95.00
Performance Series Unlimited- US$95.00
Performance Series Cut-A-Way - US$95.00
Performance Series Keith Hollien Models (TS,GS, & SS) - US$95.00
Performance Series S-Camber (either shape)- US$115.00

Foam Core CrossFire - US$225.00
Foam Core Unlimted - US$225.00
Foam Core Bottle Rocket - US$225.00
Foam Core Bullett - US$225.00
Foam Core Gary Holl Models (TS, 31", 34") - US$235.00
Foam Core Keith Hollien Models (TS,GS, & SS) - US$235.00
Foam Core Hester - US$235.00
Foam Core Hester TS - US$235.00
Foam Core Bonita - US$235.00
Foam Core Elderado - US$235.00
Foam Core Custom Shapes - US$xxx.xx (Priceless!)

All of the above listed prices are for the deck only and does not include shipping and handling or any applicable sales taxes. All of our decks come drilled and gripped.

All prices may vary slightly from one retailer to another. Look for new pricing after the first of the year.

Hope this helps!

Thanks-
Gareth
RoeRacing Slalom Skateboards

RL · Post by RL » Wed Nov 26, 2003 3:36 am

Gareth, I mailed you my vitals. I just need some questions answered and decisions finalized.
Im ready to order. Please gimme a shout.
Thanks...
Ric Liskowitz
lakesurfer@earthlink.net

Chuck Gill · Post by **Chuck Gill** » Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:12 am

Gareth, can you make custom shapes in the Performance Series laminates?

Gareth Roe · Post by **Gareth Roe** » Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:35 am

Chuck-
Sure! They cost slightly less than the foam core custom boards - see above ;-> The part that takes the most time (ie, most expensive) is making the templates that we use to shape the final board - but we can do it!

Hey - I already have one of your custom templates at the shop!!!! Is that what you were thinking?

Later-
Gareth

Chuck Gill · Post by **Chuck Gill** » Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:44 am

Something along those lines, but 2 or 3 inches longer.

Come to think of it, that is starting to look an awful lot like the Unlimited.

Hunter Singleton · Post by **Hunter Singleton** » Tue Dec 23, 2003 9:12 pm

I get my PS Crossfire tomorrow. Bravo to Gareth, Steve, and other people at the shop. Quick, Easy, service and great advice.

Thanks,
Hunter

Matthew Wilson · Post by **Matthew Wilson** » Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:48 pm

+++update May 20, 2004+++
Received new CrossFire last night. I mounted it with some G-Trucks and Cambrias. Took 'r for a spin around the block a few times. The G-trucks seem so much more turney on this deck than my Comet Race Narrow. Probably because the CrossFire has a larger platform.

Initial impression of the deck: Very solid, and I could definately "feel" the ground a lot more; though, I also feel alot more vibration through the deck than I did on the Comet Race Narrow. But I have found that is something that just sort of goes away once you start going fast.

I really like the fuller shape of the CrossFire and I like the snappier flex.

Anxious to start taking this bad-boy through the cones.

+++end update+++

I just purchased a new Crossfire on 04/28/2004
I'm stoked.
I have been riding a Comet Race Narrow Stiff since I started slaloming. And though it's a fine deck, it's just too damp for someone who is not especially strong in the legs.
I have heard good things about the Crossfire and have ridden a prototype (I think) sometime last year.

I will do my best to provide substantial feedback once I get the deck.

Thanks, Roe!

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