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The return of the old format has already prompted heavy useage once again on the UK forum. Simple single thread forums really are the best way of keeping in touch on a local or regional basis (well it works well for us in the UK anyway) and NCDSA services us well. We have tried a single thread style forum via Chatroll, set up by Sam, on the UKSSA site. However it lacks the features offered to us by Adam.
As I have said earlier on NCDSA it feels "like putting a comfy pair of slippers on - or a pair of well worn Vans". Thank you Adam
As I have said earlier on NCDSA it feels "like putting a comfy pair of slippers on - or a pair of well worn Vans". Thank you Adam
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The "old" NCDSA is back again
Even I went there to encourage him on the switch back to the old format. I have long been thinking of adding a NCDSA like topic to SlalomSkateboarder.com but in the last few years I haven't done any programming at all on this site, so it never happened. Now we're in development mode again, so I'll look into the options for it, but not really to replace NCDSA. Just make it a better Daily Banter maybe.
The big difference between us and NCDSA is that NCDSA is now again open to anyone without signing up first. Here you still have to sign up. I think that's OK for us, because it's less of a chatroom and meant to be more structured.
/Jani
The big difference between us and NCDSA is that NCDSA is now again open to anyone without signing up first. Here you still have to sign up. I think that's OK for us, because it's less of a chatroom and meant to be more structured.
/Jani
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And Adam Thank You. Sharing good STOKE and skating knowledge is what these sites were created for. Truly. Frankie welcome. Ride Hard, practice go to contest and enjoy yourself. Your Amigo Eddy Texas Outlaws. You can tell I am allways STOKED. I did get Chris Yandalls autograph. The skater is Karl Floit Graph the second skater is Gary Fluitt
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My new title
Coming up this fall my new title will be "Grandpa" -- that's right, my son and his wife will be having a baby this fall.
Maybe ISSA should have a "Grandpa" class?
Maybe ISSA should have a "Grandpa" class?
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North American Status Marshall Update
There are so many different sections on this forum I have no idea where this should be posted. - Jani, please move this if there is a better place for it.
I want racers and race organizers know some things are happening. Lynn Kramer and I have joined on as North American Status Marshalls. We are working with JBH and Fatboy to contact race organizers and sort out ISSA status assignments for MAIN and PRIME races. The Board of Directors will decide on the World Championship assignment.
The BOD and EU Status Marshalls have revised the race application and created a status guide - listing the differences between the different levels of races.
We've sent race applications to organizers we know are interested in hosting races. If anyone else is interested in hosting a race and would like to receive an ISSA status assignment, please contact us or post somewhere on this forum. I have no idea which section that should be. Maybe someone can tell us.
Hopefully all the applications will be submitted promptly and the details can be worked out so the status assignments can be announced soon.
Anyone interested in racing or hosting races should read the ranking rules here:
http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/slalomranking/mvc.php
This will explain how the system works so you aren't surprised at the end of the season and you don't have as many points as you thought you should have.
One important thing to note is that to collect PRO points, at least 8 PROs or more have to participate in a race. If only 5 PROs show up, no one collects PRO level points that day. If North American racers don't collect more PRO points, the Europeans will dominate the rankings. So encourage all your Pro friends to attend more races. Encourage your AM friends to get better and move up to PRO so we have more PRO racers. Maybe at the races, Pros can give technique and equipment advice to the AMs so they get better and help the sport grow. Many have helped me. Thanks. AMs need to speak up and ask PROs for advice. I do this at every race.
I know the current BOD is working on things. Maybe cutting down on so many topic sections?
They will probably give us an update soon.
Thank you.
I want racers and race organizers know some things are happening. Lynn Kramer and I have joined on as North American Status Marshalls. We are working with JBH and Fatboy to contact race organizers and sort out ISSA status assignments for MAIN and PRIME races. The Board of Directors will decide on the World Championship assignment.
The BOD and EU Status Marshalls have revised the race application and created a status guide - listing the differences between the different levels of races.
We've sent race applications to organizers we know are interested in hosting races. If anyone else is interested in hosting a race and would like to receive an ISSA status assignment, please contact us or post somewhere on this forum. I have no idea which section that should be. Maybe someone can tell us.
Hopefully all the applications will be submitted promptly and the details can be worked out so the status assignments can be announced soon.
Anyone interested in racing or hosting races should read the ranking rules here:
http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/slalomranking/mvc.php
This will explain how the system works so you aren't surprised at the end of the season and you don't have as many points as you thought you should have.
One important thing to note is that to collect PRO points, at least 8 PROs or more have to participate in a race. If only 5 PROs show up, no one collects PRO level points that day. If North American racers don't collect more PRO points, the Europeans will dominate the rankings. So encourage all your Pro friends to attend more races. Encourage your AM friends to get better and move up to PRO so we have more PRO racers. Maybe at the races, Pros can give technique and equipment advice to the AMs so they get better and help the sport grow. Many have helped me. Thanks. AMs need to speak up and ask PROs for advice. I do this at every race.
I know the current BOD is working on things. Maybe cutting down on so many topic sections?
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They will probably give us an update soon.
Thank you.
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Re: North American Status Marshall Update
I'm maybe not the one for big annoucements, but we owe you a report on the ongoing action. Been busy pulling strings to get the right things going, so with this post I just want to assure you that things are actually happening.Steve Pederson wrote:I know the current BOD is working on things.
They will probably give us an update soon.
- Making sure the ranking is finalized was the first comittment. Corky has been working in overdrive to make that happen.
- Assigning status marshals for US, Brazil and Australia. EU assignments were done in November already.
- Getting the status marshals set up and working
- Getting a new sanction document and guidelines out
I won't list it all here, because this is just the daily banter but we are confident that we are on the right track for this year!
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Moving this train along
The North American Status Marshals are working on assigning status levels for races. We have assigned MAIN to the Texas Sizzler and PRIME to the Oregon State Games.
Even though we know other races are planned and set. We are just waiting for the applications to be submitted.
Right now there are two bids for hosting the World Championships. Ottawa, Canada and Antrim, New Hampshire. If anyone else is interested in hosting the race, please speak up soon.
Ottawa is checking to see if they will have permission for their first choice hill. and Antrim is checking to see if the school dorms will be available.
Some of the things we are considering are:
- Timing in calendar
- Conflict with other races
- Attendance expected
- Quality of race location
- History of organization
- Accommodations
- Audience
- Travel
The Marshalls will give their recommendations to the Board of Directors and the BOD will make the final decision.
Even though we know other races are planned and set. We are just waiting for the applications to be submitted.
Right now there are two bids for hosting the World Championships. Ottawa, Canada and Antrim, New Hampshire. If anyone else is interested in hosting the race, please speak up soon.
Ottawa is checking to see if they will have permission for their first choice hill. and Antrim is checking to see if the school dorms will be available.
Some of the things we are considering are:
- Timing in calendar
- Conflict with other races
- Attendance expected
- Quality of race location
- History of organization
- Accommodations
- Audience
- Travel
The Marshalls will give their recommendations to the Board of Directors and the BOD will make the final decision.
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Thanks Donald.
Actually we're not posting enough for everyone to see, and we should improve on that soon. The reason is that there are two new restricted access forums at the site, one for the board members and one for a working group including ranking administrator(s), status marshals, national status coordinators and other volunteers to the ISSA. We've been busy in those forums and we should have made more annoucements available. It's coming!
/Jani
Actually we're not posting enough for everyone to see, and we should improve on that soon. The reason is that there are two new restricted access forums at the site, one for the board members and one for a working group including ranking administrator(s), status marshals, national status coordinators and other volunteers to the ISSA. We've been busy in those forums and we should have made more annoucements available. It's coming!
/Jani
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It looks like there are five Pros signed up for the Texas Sizzler MAIN status race. We need few more so the Pros can collect Pro level points and stay competitive with the Europeans in the rankings. 8 Pros are needed.
Rick stepped up this year. I might. Lou? Lou and I usually race neck and neck. Anyone else?
Rick stepped up this year. I might. Lou? Lou and I usually race neck and neck. Anyone else?
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Approved by the European Status Marshals 2011
MAIN Status for The Dutch Championships 2011 - 5th Amsterdam Slalom Series
PRIME Status for Policka 2011
Approved Applications Sanction Forms and Details are to find in the ISSA calendar
http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/phpBB ... php?t=7614
or direct
http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/ISSA/ ... m-2011.pdf
http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/ISSA/ ... a-2011.pdf
MAIN Status for The Dutch Championships 2011 - 5th Amsterdam Slalom Series
PRIME Status for Policka 2011
Approved Applications Sanction Forms and Details are to find in the ISSA calendar
http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/phpBB ... php?t=7614
or direct
http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/ISSA/ ... m-2011.pdf
http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/ISSA/ ... a-2011.pdf
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The MAJOR Status 2011 for East Atlantic Regions goes to
European Championship in Grenoble, France, 1-2-3 July 2011
Congratulation !!!
Approved by the European Status Marshals 2011
Approved Applications Sanction Form and Details are to find in the ISSA calendar
http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/phpBB ... php?t=7614
or direct
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European Championship in Grenoble, France, 1-2-3 July 2011
Congratulation !!!
Approved by the European Status Marshals 2011
Approved Applications Sanction Form and Details are to find in the ISSA calendar
http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/phpBB ... php?t=7614
or direct
http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/ISSA/ ... n-V1.1.pdf
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The event calendar on http://www.slalomranking.com is now up to date
Please doublecheck, if you find some typing errors/mistakes etc. please let me know...
Regards Peter
Please doublecheck, if you find some typing errors/mistakes etc. please let me know...
Regards Peter
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Peter,
Good job! It's a very impressive list.
Here's a few recent confirmed status assignments:
Ottawa: MAJOR
Texas: MAIN
Oregon State Games: PRIME
Wisconsin Wiggle War: PRIME
Désaxé should say European Championships too, if you can fit it in.
Hmm, why are only two events showing up on the front page of slalomranking.com?
Thanks!
/Jani
Good job! It's a very impressive list.
Here's a few recent confirmed status assignments:
Ottawa: MAJOR
Texas: MAIN
Oregon State Games: PRIME
Wisconsin Wiggle War: PRIME
Désaxé should say European Championships too, if you can fit it in.
Hmm, why are only two events showing up on the front page of slalomranking.com?
Thanks!
/Jani
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Fronpage events are fixed now,Jani Soderhall wrote:Peter,
Good job! It's a very impressive list.
Here's a few recent confirmed status assignments:
Ottawa: MAJOR
Texas: MAIN
Oregon State Games: PRIME
Wisconsin Wiggle War: PRIME
Désaxé should say European Championships too, if you can fit it in.
Hmm, why are only two events showing up on the front page of slalomranking.com?
Thanks!
/Jani
I don't have the Database rights to change candidate status to official status (except for the East Atlantic Regions (talk with Corky please).
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Rumor has it that the Colorado racers have been doing some slalom riding as well as downhill riding. There's also talk of several new guys coming out and running only about a second slower than Gary Fluitt on their first time riding slalom.
And what about this guy? He claims he's on Team OTC (Off The Couch), but I have my doubts. I show here some recent evidence that Dave Pirnack isn't quite as out of practice as he claims. Will the real Dave Pirnack please stand up - or sit back down?
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And what about this guy? He claims he's on Team OTC (Off The Couch), but I have my doubts. I show here some recent evidence that Dave Pirnack isn't quite as out of practice as he claims. Will the real Dave Pirnack please stand up - or sit back down?
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Here is a vid of the Derby Hill. And she will take you out. WT we are so relieved you are OK. Thank You for coming down to the Pseudo Sizzler. Your Amigo Eddy Texas Outlaws
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOEbpZua0tg
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOEbpZua0tg
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2011 Concrete Wave Magazine Reader's Choice Awards
For a second year in a row, Concrete Wave Magazine readers have chosen Fullbag has there favorite slalom deck company! ![:D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
And we didn't do to bad in other categories either...![:)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
FAVORITE CARVING/CRUISING DECK
15. Fullbag
FAVORITE DOWNHILL DECK
6. Fullbag
FAVORITE FREERIDING DECK
10. Fullbag
FAVORITE LONG DISTANCE DECK
14. Fullbag
FAVORITE SLALOM DECK
1. Fullbag
FAVORITE FREESTYLE DECK
1. Fullbag
I would like to thank all the team riders for everything they do for us, and specially all the customers who have been supporting us and passing on there stoke since 2007.
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And we didn't do to bad in other categories either...
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FAVORITE CARVING/CRUISING DECK
15. Fullbag
FAVORITE DOWNHILL DECK
6. Fullbag
FAVORITE FREERIDING DECK
10. Fullbag
FAVORITE LONG DISTANCE DECK
14. Fullbag
FAVORITE SLALOM DECK
1. Fullbag
FAVORITE FREESTYLE DECK
1. Fullbag
I would like to thank all the team riders for everything they do for us, and specially all the customers who have been supporting us and passing on there stoke since 2007.
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Watch out Texas - Here comes Dom!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL9d123vhpM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL9d123vhpM
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The ISSA calendar and slalomranking.com Events are now up to date and synchronized
following changes has been made
add Thrasheville Mountain Skate Festival May 27-29, 2011,
change dates for
Outlawslalom #10 (from 13-Mar to 20-Mar),
Czech Cup – 1st contest - Prachatice (from 14-15 May to 30 April 01 May)
Czech Cup – 2st contest - Prague (from 27-28 May to 28-29 May),
set MAIN Status for Antrim Can / Am International,
add
Airflow Slalom Brunch 30 (PRIME Status) 30 April - 1 May 2011
Over 80 Cones (PRIME Status) 24 September 2011
NEWRIDER LONGSKATE TOUR race#2 on 25 March
Remark:
somebody (US Status Marshalls) should set on slalomranking.com the granted statuses for the West Atlantic Regions from candidate to approved, for example the Worlds, Antrim etc.
I can not do it because lack of privileges
Regards
Peter
following changes has been made
add Thrasheville Mountain Skate Festival May 27-29, 2011,
change dates for
Outlawslalom #10 (from 13-Mar to 20-Mar),
Czech Cup – 1st contest - Prachatice (from 14-15 May to 30 April 01 May)
Czech Cup – 2st contest - Prague (from 27-28 May to 28-29 May),
set MAIN Status for Antrim Can / Am International,
add
Airflow Slalom Brunch 30 (PRIME Status) 30 April - 1 May 2011
Over 80 Cones (PRIME Status) 24 September 2011
NEWRIDER LONGSKATE TOUR race#2 on 25 March
Remark:
somebody (US Status Marshalls) should set on slalomranking.com the granted statuses for the West Atlantic Regions from candidate to approved, for example the Worlds, Antrim etc.
I can not do it because lack of privileges
Regards
Peter
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daily race updates are here: Slalom!
scroll down for photos
scroll down for photos
Texas Sizzler Slalom Cross Results
Results called in by Steve Pederson:
1. Joe Mac
2. Dominik
3. Pirnack
4. JBH
More excitement to come!
1. Joe Mac
2. Dominik
3. Pirnack
4. JBH
More excitement to come!
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2011 Sizzler DH results
Rumor has it Joe Mac won the DH on his slalom deck!
1 Joe Mac
2 Dominik
3 Dustin Dixon
4 Chris Doan
5 Richy
6 JBH
7 Steve Pederson
1 Joe Mac
2 Dominik
3 Dustin Dixon
4 Chris Doan
5 Richy
6 JBH
7 Steve Pederson
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TEASER PICTURE FROM YESTERDAY
Photo of Dustin Dixon taken yesterday at the Seismic Cold Fusion Sizzler by Aria Pramesi.
Just wait until he posts the rest on his website, you will be amazed!!
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Just wait until he posts the rest on his website, you will be amazed!!
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2011 Texas Cold Fusion Sizzler Hybrid Final
Hybrid A group just finished.
A nasty headwind in the middle of qualifying round shook things up a bit, to say the least!!
Final results just called in from JBH:
Hybrid A Group
1 Joe McLaren (again!)
2 OTC Chris Barker!
3 Dominik Kowalski
4 OTC Dave Pirnack!
5 Richy Carrasco
6 Keith Hollien
7 Karl Floitgraf
8 Justin Collins
I hope Dominik's ankle holds up for TS.
A nasty headwind in the middle of qualifying round shook things up a bit, to say the least!!
Final results just called in from JBH:
Hybrid A Group
1 Joe McLaren (again!)
2 OTC Chris Barker!
3 Dominik Kowalski
4 OTC Dave Pirnack!
5 Richy Carrasco
6 Keith Hollien
7 Karl Floitgraf
8 Justin Collins
I hope Dominik's ankle holds up for TS.
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2011 Texas Cold Fusion Sizzler Hybrid Group B Results
Just called in by Steve Pederson:
Hybrid Group B Results:
1 John Stryker
2 Gregg Stubbs
3 Steve Lavin
4 Marcos Soulsby-Monroy
5 Bobby Thomas
6 Jeremy Coffman
7 Dustin Dixon
8 Chris Favero
9 Neil Orta
10 Dan Hardick
11 Ethan Allen
12 Earl Cephas
13 Pete Cardenas
14 Dave Tolley
15 Jason Bortolussi
16 Kevin Lane
Hybrid Group B Results:
1 John Stryker
2 Gregg Stubbs
3 Steve Lavin
4 Marcos Soulsby-Monroy
5 Bobby Thomas
6 Jeremy Coffman
7 Dustin Dixon
8 Chris Favero
9 Neil Orta
10 Dan Hardick
11 Ethan Allen
12 Earl Cephas
13 Pete Cardenas
14 Dave Tolley
15 Jason Bortolussi
16 Kevin Lane
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2011 Texas Cold Fusion Sizzler Hybrid Tight Results
Group A
1 Joe Mac
2 Chris Barker
3 Dominik Kowalski
4 Dave Pirnack
Group B
1 John Stryker,
2 Neil Orta
3 Steve Lavin
1 Joe Mac
2 Chris Barker
3 Dominik Kowalski
4 Dave Pirnack
Group B
1 John Stryker,
2 Neil Orta
3 Steve Lavin
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2011 Texas Cold Fusion
Another great photo from Aria Pramesi.
A link will be posted to the other photos when he gets them downloaded!
Dominik Kowalski charging at Hockley Hill
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A link will be posted to the other photos when he gets them downloaded!
Dominik Kowalski charging at Hockley Hill
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Seismic Cold Fusion Sizzler Photos
Check out the rst of the Sizzler photos here:
http://www.ahpramesi.com/p1013844086
It seems Aria's strobelight got blown over by the wind & the back plate cracked & bent a bit, and the power plug got dislodged so buy his photos so he can get it fixed!
http://www.ahpramesi.com/p1013844086
It seems Aria's strobelight got blown over by the wind & the back plate cracked & bent a bit, and the power plug got dislodged so buy his photos so he can get it fixed!
![Image](http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/croon20/gogfame.gif)