A and B PROTOTYPES
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A and B PROTOTYPES
what you saw in the first post was the A prototype.
we are just receiving our B prototypes and they already! look as perfect as any other truck available on the market..besides the accurate cnc-job they are sandblasted and come in a matte grey with logo on the hanger polished in shiny silver.
i'll post a few pics this evening for you to see the first B proto of the non-wedgeable front truck
wedgeable front and rear are due for brixlegg.
please take your time to visit the vendors booth we have there to check out all the products from this year's sponsors for the worlds.
G.O.G. will be there too.
we are just receiving our B prototypes and they already! look as perfect as any other truck available on the market..besides the accurate cnc-job they are sandblasted and come in a matte grey with logo on the hanger polished in shiny silver.
i'll post a few pics this evening for you to see the first B proto of the non-wedgeable front truck
wedgeable front and rear are due for brixlegg.
please take your time to visit the vendors booth we have there to check out all the products from this year's sponsors for the worlds.
G.O.G. will be there too.
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very nice...
Donald if they perform half as good as they look...you are onto a winner! Keep us posted as to when they become available. Do any of "your boys" have them at present so I can quiz them?
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uhhh...100mmm is a few mm too much for a front truck - but good job.
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Magnifique!!!!! .. I'm looking forward to get mine in BriXXX
so exciting!
so exciting!
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Donald!
Did you still didn't find that fucking flower on your camera?
But still, that stuff looks so promising.....good job (for everyone involved)
Did you still didn't find that fucking flower on your camera?
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But still, that stuff looks so promising.....good job (for everyone involved)
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drool....i hope I get to see a pair of those bad boys.
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truck
when is it for sale????
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hey everybody
tons of e-mails and pm's on the board
i'll keep you all updated on the progress
so far only a few folks will have those trucks in brixlegg
whoever is there can chack and ride the trucks,compare for yourselves
all the details will be posted here later on
one thing though:
i create a hype,i love to do that.
but same as with my boards i ask people to remain critical and open-minded about a product in general.
i so often read"awesome" and all the other comments on boards,but i have the feeling that it's mostly about the looks of the board f.e.
what frustrates me then is that people don't seem to recognize the hard work by the riders that went into the final product/shape/concave.
that's what makes a certain board so desirable.
vincent's gunner had about 10 predecessors until we finally agreed on something we could sell with a good feeling.
steve hinzen was always there to help me/educate me with his rich surfboardshaper background.
so this board f.e. is a result of vince's hard and efficient work and input.
same goes for steve.
the final product is an accumulation of info-i am the slave to my/your desire then to make it happen.
i want you to see the trucks the same way.
once they are really ready you can be damn sure that they have the ok of top-skaters.
so they must be worth their money then.
we'll make sure they look really sharp then,so that you won't hestitate to buy them.
frank beste is the constructer of those trucks and he knows damn sure what he is doing,maybe more than a few others who are always eager to post about trucks.
he deserves a LOT of credit too.
i'm there to make things happen,that's where i'm really good at.
tons of e-mails and pm's on the board
i'll keep you all updated on the progress
so far only a few folks will have those trucks in brixlegg
whoever is there can chack and ride the trucks,compare for yourselves
all the details will be posted here later on
one thing though:
i create a hype,i love to do that.
but same as with my boards i ask people to remain critical and open-minded about a product in general.
i so often read"awesome" and all the other comments on boards,but i have the feeling that it's mostly about the looks of the board f.e.
what frustrates me then is that people don't seem to recognize the hard work by the riders that went into the final product/shape/concave.
that's what makes a certain board so desirable.
vincent's gunner had about 10 predecessors until we finally agreed on something we could sell with a good feeling.
steve hinzen was always there to help me/educate me with his rich surfboardshaper background.
so this board f.e. is a result of vince's hard and efficient work and input.
same goes for steve.
the final product is an accumulation of info-i am the slave to my/your desire then to make it happen.
i want you to see the trucks the same way.
once they are really ready you can be damn sure that they have the ok of top-skaters.
so they must be worth their money then.
we'll make sure they look really sharp then,so that you won't hestitate to buy them.
frank beste is the constructer of those trucks and he knows damn sure what he is doing,maybe more than a few others who are always eager to post about trucks.
he deserves a LOT of credit too.
i'm there to make things happen,that's where i'm really good at.
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hey! i just want to say that i will have one of the first one who are for sale! so it´s not sold out befor i got one. just send me a mail when its ready for shipping! Thanx pelleplast
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nice!
just tell me the price on it!!!! cant wait to have it on my board!
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Donald please tell us these trucks will be reasonably priced. No more paying 175$ for a front truck and 200+ for a back truck. I do agree the front truck does look like a Radikal, but that is like saying all kicktails on skateboards are all alike. Two people can have the same idea. Good luck with the trucks. Inovation is what fuels the sport of slalom. Your Amigo Eddy Texas Outlaws.
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I've raced both Special (grippy) and Giant with a Pavel Gunner and GOG rear and front proto trucks in Brixlegg (Worlds 2006).
Donald advised me to test them after, but you know that I've spent last year races testing stuff so I did it again. Ok it's not so easy in Pro @ Worlds especially when you couln't hardly train during the season and perhaps it wasn't a great idea for my results. But after a lot of different tests with bushing and angle I'm sure the can offer great performance.
The ability to change the angle (and so quiclky and easily) on the rear is incredible. It really allows a lot of different ways to ride. That really affects the whole control on the board. I suppose that all rider could find what he want... the only thing will be to know how to set it and when...
At least I'm happy with my last special run against Jason, I had at least the control I wanted and I wasn't far as it was the faster run of the round.
Bravo Frank!!!
Donald advised me to test them after, but you know that I've spent last year races testing stuff so I did it again. Ok it's not so easy in Pro @ Worlds especially when you couln't hardly train during the season and perhaps it wasn't a great idea for my results. But after a lot of different tests with bushing and angle I'm sure the can offer great performance.
The ability to change the angle (and so quiclky and easily) on the rear is incredible. It really allows a lot of different ways to ride. That really affects the whole control on the board. I suppose that all rider could find what he want... the only thing will be to know how to set it and when...
At least I'm happy with my last special run against Jason, I had at least the control I wanted and I wasn't far as it was the faster run of the round.
Bravo Frank!!!
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Bravo Frank!!!! So true!!!
Thankfully, I could get one of the last protos for the front truck for Brixx.
All I can say is: It works!!!
It didn't really matter on what course, I was running it almost flat, in tight, special and giant, I even went down straight bombing the hill at the GS.
It just feels very smooth.![;)](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
Really really really nice job!!! Respect!
Thankfully, I could get one of the last protos for the front truck for Brixx.
All I can say is: It works!!!
It didn't really matter on what course, I was running it almost flat, in tight, special and giant, I even went down straight bombing the hill at the GS.
It just feels very smooth.
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Really really really nice job!!! Respect!
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availabilty/price
When do you guys expect these trucks to be available to the public? and a number of people are asking about the price? Are these trucks trucks still in the testing phase and you a reluctant to set a price yet? if so.. that's cool.
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the truck the world has been waiting for...
I only managed to ride the front truck so far. I mounted it on my boards just minutes before the races in Brixlegg. There was no testing neccessary. I knew if Frank builts something it will work. All I can say is:
Go ride these trucks and SMILE!
You are entering into a new dimension of slalomskateboarding. They work for you from the first second you ride them. Sharp and precise reaction without any hassle about trimming or anything else.
And the look, what can I say: form follows function!
Great engineering from G.o.G.-Mastermind Frank Beste!
Go ride these trucks and SMILE!
You are entering into a new dimension of slalomskateboarding. They work for you from the first second you ride them. Sharp and precise reaction without any hassle about trimming or anything else.
And the look, what can I say: form follows function!
Great engineering from G.o.G.-Mastermind Frank Beste!
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Thats absolutely right, Steve ! I put my front GOG on my "smaller" Pavel board, which some guys would use for GS, I could easily run a tight course including some nice offsets !
Without any tuning, I could run the truck "out of the box" ! bottom bushing = blue khiro, top bushing = white khiro.
I would describe the function of a GOG truck like a sinus curve ! Most of the other trucks I rode in front (radikal, splifire, Tracker, Indy...) worked more like a "zick-Zacked" curve.
I hope everyone understands what I want to say ! .-)
Without any tuning, I could run the truck "out of the box" ! bottom bushing = blue khiro, top bushing = white khiro.
I would describe the function of a GOG truck like a sinus curve ! Most of the other trucks I rode in front (radikal, splifire, Tracker, Indy...) worked more like a "zick-Zacked" curve.
I hope everyone understands what I want to say ! .-)
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I believe that what we really need is a truck that turns a cycloid curve:Ramón Königshausen wrote:I want a truck that turns like a tangens curve! lil' maths professorCarsten Pingel wrote:
I would describe the function of a GOG truck like a sinus curve !
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Tangent! Imagine the ride of this truck. Once you're at the edge of one side it beams you back to the other. Fast direction changes!Adam Daniels wrote:you sure you want tangent curve? i believe you want a cosine or sine curve depending on what side you start on of the first cone
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Donald,
Is there a chance that the final retail version of the front truck will have a kingpin that is not threaded into the baseplate? That is the primary problem with Radikals, as I'm sure you know. A second issue that would be nice to have solved with GoGs would be a "spherical" bearing that has smooth action already. I spend a good amount of time breaking-in my Rads before the bearings move smooth enough and it would be nice if it were already done. The last issue that I would love to see upgraded from Rads is the baseplate-wheel interference. The wheel on a Rad hits the mounting nut on the baseplate dead-on. Not good. My tweaks to solve the last issue are critically necessary but not pretty. Baseplate, say hello to Mr. Bench Grinder.
Any reply you have would be appreciated.
Most importantly, thanks for continuing the development of slalom trucks. It's a small niche and it takes some balls to go in knowing you probably won't make much out of it. Now that McCree has his eggs back in the office chair someone else needed to step up. Thanks.
Is there a chance that the final retail version of the front truck will have a kingpin that is not threaded into the baseplate? That is the primary problem with Radikals, as I'm sure you know. A second issue that would be nice to have solved with GoGs would be a "spherical" bearing that has smooth action already. I spend a good amount of time breaking-in my Rads before the bearings move smooth enough and it would be nice if it were already done. The last issue that I would love to see upgraded from Rads is the baseplate-wheel interference. The wheel on a Rad hits the mounting nut on the baseplate dead-on. Not good. My tweaks to solve the last issue are critically necessary but not pretty. Baseplate, say hello to Mr. Bench Grinder.
Any reply you have would be appreciated.
Most importantly, thanks for continuing the development of slalom trucks. It's a small niche and it takes some balls to go in knowing you probably won't make much out of it. Now that McCree has his eggs back in the office chair someone else needed to step up. Thanks.
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NEWSNEWSNEWSNEWSNEWS!!!!!!!!!
The GOG front Truck has recently been spotted at a Standup Downhill competition. It looks like they're testing it on extreme highspeed issues. Will there be a downhill version of it spaceable to 200mm?
Only rumors?
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Only rumors?
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hhmmmmm
so they've been tested in high speed situations?
who is that freak on the picture anyway?is that the green traffic light man?
maybe we know him?
hehehehe
nice 70's bike helmet!!!!!!!!!!!!
yep they're good when it comes to speed nice smooth stable.
high speed is something we didn't test yet but thanks to dominik and a few other brave soldiers from across the big blue pond we know what they are capable of.
the downhill guys are already anxious to get their hands on a dh truck.
who knows what we will do in the future?
truckbite?
uhhhh we don't like that...
threaded kingpins?
yes we also have them,but ours stay where they are meant to be...
breaking in bearings?
we didn't have that problem yet,but we already know about that issue...
so they've been tested in high speed situations?
who is that freak on the picture anyway?is that the green traffic light man?
maybe we know him?
hehehehe
nice 70's bike helmet!!!!!!!!!!!!
yep they're good when it comes to speed nice smooth stable.
high speed is something we didn't test yet but thanks to dominik and a few other brave soldiers from across the big blue pond we know what they are capable of.
the downhill guys are already anxious to get their hands on a dh truck.
who knows what we will do in the future?
truckbite?
uhhhh we don't like that...
threaded kingpins?
yes we also have them,but ours stay where they are meant to be...
breaking in bearings?
we didn't have that problem yet,but we already know about that issue...
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Hunting The Pack!!!
Shit! I think you got me ![:)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
Yes, we had a lot of fun racing at the german championchips in Halden.
During many of our freerides, I thought I just give it a try to run my Pavel-Rocka (my tight-slalom board!!)
and I was really amazed that it actually felt more comfortable as riding my DH board. It was a narrow and techniqule road...
and after that expierience I choosed the small board for the race.
It was a good laugh in the beginning, I think alot of guys would never have expected that I could qualify or even cross the finish line...
But infact, I really made many riders pretty nervous. I was faster on the start and could easily keep up in the turns....
boaahh, and it was just so much fun!!!
I'm not that experienced in DH racing yet, but I think I ended up around 10. place, and I think I could show the capabilities of that truck,
which was the only reason I could ride fast with such a short and turny board without getting speed wobbles.....
and yes, it's true... everybody is getting anxious about getting a DH version of it, but:
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Yes, we had a lot of fun racing at the german championchips in Halden.
During many of our freerides, I thought I just give it a try to run my Pavel-Rocka (my tight-slalom board!!)
and I was really amazed that it actually felt more comfortable as riding my DH board. It was a narrow and techniqule road...
and after that expierience I choosed the small board for the race.
It was a good laugh in the beginning, I think alot of guys would never have expected that I could qualify or even cross the finish line...
But infact, I really made many riders pretty nervous. I was faster on the start and could easily keep up in the turns....
boaahh, and it was just so much fun!!!
I'm not that experienced in DH racing yet, but I think I ended up around 10. place, and I think I could show the capabilities of that truck,
which was the only reason I could ride fast with such a short and turny board without getting speed wobbles.....
and yes, it's true... everybody is getting anxious about getting a DH version of it, but:
Uhhh, don't you think 200mm is a little bitle too wide???Will there be a downhill version of it spaceable to 200mm?
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The first batch, soon to arrive in Stockholm, will only be front trucks. Contact Corky at Coyote Grind Lounge if you want to be among the first ones to own one.Olle van Keppel wrote:Looks cool, i heard that some of them are coming up to stockholm, is that both front and rear one's or is just one of them?
There's a batch destined for Paris too.
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the trucks were supposed to be here last friday
they are at the customs at the moment and if we don't get them till this friday we hava a back-up plan to minimize delays.
this means actual production in germany then will start on friday and we'll have most of the ordered trucks ready by middle of next week.takes some extra efforts and time but we'll do it
they are at the customs at the moment and if we don't get them till this friday we hava a back-up plan to minimize delays.
this means actual production in germany then will start on friday and we'll have most of the ordered trucks ready by middle of next week.takes some extra efforts and time but we'll do it
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