Parallelslalom Race Grueningen, Schweiz 21./22. Juni 2003

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Post by Chris Eggers » Wed Dec 11, 2002 1:47 pm

Announcement

Parallelslalom Contest Grueningen Switzerland

This is a pre-announcement for the famous Parallelslalom Race in Grueningen, Switzerland.

The race will be held for the fourth time now once again organized by the Youth-Generation Association.
The complete Swiss scene will be there as well as racers from all over Europe and hopefully the world.

For those of you who have been fortunate enough to have attended the race in 2002 you will remember the road for not having proper pavement in the upper section where the race was not held. This has been done for next year, the road has perfect pavement all the way now so the course will be significantly longer than in 2002. There will be photos available soon.

The stats:

Date: 21./22. June 2003

Place: Grueningen/Switzerland (nearest international Airport: Zuerich)

Categories: Girls, Juniors (16 and younger), Men

Disciplines: Tight and Giant Slalom (Sat/Sun not decided yet), ramp start, electronic timing

Entry fee: 15 - 20 SFR

Prices: 1.000 SFR first place (3.000-4.000 SFR whole purse) plus stuff prices (still looking for sponsors, interested companies please contact us)

Accomodation: for free in the bunker, Hotels will be listed on the homepage

There will be a party for all on Saturday evening (lets make our own Savage Club)

Homepage: http://www.pscontest.ch (update available January 2003)

Contact: jadranko.radovanovic@swissaxis.com


Ankündigung

Parallelslalom Contest, Grueningen, Schweiz

Dies ist eine Vorankündigung für das berühmte Parallelslalomrennen in Grueningen, Schweiz

Das Rennen wird nun zum vierten Mal abgehalten werden und wird wieder von der Youth-Generation Grueningen organisiert.
Die ganze schweizer Slalom Szene wird anwesend sein und auch Fahrer aus ganz Europa und hoffentlich aus der ganzen Welt.

Diejenigen glücklichen die letztes Jahr schon da waren werden sich daran erinnern dass die Strasse im oberen Bereich, wo das Rennen nicht statt fand, nicht gut asphaltiert war. Dies wurde inzwischen bereinigt so dass der Kurs bedeutend länger als letztes Jahr sein wird. Photos der Strasse werden demnächst erhältlich sein.

Die Daten:

Datum: 21./22. Juni 2003

Ort: Grueningen/Schweiz (nähester Internationaler Flughafen: Zürich)

Kategorien: Damen, Junioren (16 und jünger), Männer

Disziplinen: Tight und Giant Slalom (es ist noch nicht entschieden welcher Kurs Samstag oder Sonntag), Ramp Start, elektronische Zeitmessanlage

Startgeld: 15-20 SFR

Preise: 1.000 SFR (gesamt: 3.000-4.000 SFR) und Sachpreise (wir suchen noch nach Sponsoren, bei Interesse bitte melden)

Übernachtungsmöglichkeiten: umsonst im Zivilbunker, Hotels werden auf der Homepage aufgelistet.

Am Samstag abend wird eine Party stattfinden

Homepage: http://www.pscontest.ch (update ab Januar 2003)

Kontakt: jadranko.radovanovic@swissaxis.com










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Post by Glenn S » Wed Dec 11, 2002 6:25 pm

Ok, and I'd like to see some US skaters over there too.

I say that we get a fund going on the site here to get Richy Carrasco(to race) and Maria Carrasco(to film) over to this race.

If they make a PayPal account up, they've got my donation.

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Post by Jani Soderhall » Wed Dec 11, 2002 10:19 pm

Great to see that the Swiss organizers are so early in announcing their event!



I've written it into my calendar already!



I hope many others racers (be it American, European, Asian, or South American!) will come as well, making it even more interesting.



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Post by Bruce Brewington » Thu Dec 12, 2002 1:11 am

A race this summer in Switzerland...sounds great. Count me in and I now have it on my calendar also, and I hope there will be other domestic skaters that will also make the journey overseas 'cause I'd hate to see the slowest skater on the FCR tour be the only representative from the US.

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Post by Michael Dong » Thu Dec 19, 2002 9:36 am

Hi Chris,

I am very interested in making at least one trip over to race in Europe this year. Could you describe the courses as compared to the Morro Bay course? Are average cone distances like 4ft apart or somewhere closer to 6ft? Is altitude a factor? What would be an ideal board setup for the course? Any information you could provide will help greatly.

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Post by Chris Eggers » Thu Dec 19, 2002 9:51 am

If you want to have a little view of the race site you can check the report on http://www.sk8mag.de from 2002

go to:

http://www.sk8mag.de/contests/grueningen02/


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Post by Chris Eggers » Thu Jan 02, 2003 3:21 pm

I just deleted my own post with my answer to Michael....urgh computers....hate it, need it.

Anyway who has certain plans to come? I heard of the enlish dudes, Michael, Paul, ED.
Jani and Hans, Mr. Dong, JG, Howard Gordon, Attila, Carrascos (several?).....any one else? Sharon?
Ok a little early, but it would be cool to have a line up of the stars in the next plea for sponsors..

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Post by Paul Keleher » Thu Jan 02, 2003 3:51 pm

there are some Video clips of Martin Drayton & Chris Linford at this race in 2002 on the Ukssa website

go to

http://www.ukssa.net

click onto video's

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Post by Chris Eggers » Mon Mar 17, 2003 8:27 am

http://www.pscontest.ch now welcomes the Italian delegation to the starters list. More than 3 months until the race starts and already nearly 40 racers registered. Can someone please count how many nations will be represented?



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Post by Hans Koraeus » Tue Mar 18, 2003 12:15 am

Wow! Paolo Gatti and Luca Giammarco! So Gianluca has pulled them in their ears. The continuation of the european slalom revival is alive & well.

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Post by John Gilmour » Tue Mar 18, 2003 7:10 am

Is it possible to contact Gatti and Luca to confirm for sure that they will be there and also to make them aware of the USA racing schedule for this year? Gatti speaks english well.

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Post by Chris Eggers » Tue Mar 18, 2003 8:47 am

I do not have their email, but I am very sure that they will be there. It really looks like Grüningen will be the place to be in June! The Youth Organisation is really promoting it well this time, so there will be spectators too.

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Post by Chris Eggers » Fri Mar 28, 2003 11:50 am

You can find new infos on http://www.pscontest.ch in several updates in the coming weeks from now on. There are infos about the saturday night party online now.

http://www.pscontest.ch is online since 1 year now. There were 5869 visitors registered up until today.
Total klicks were 152.739. The site has been visited from more than 30 countries.

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Post by YOYO SHULTZ » Tue Apr 01, 2003 12:25 am

Here is a link to last year's Saturday practice session...
http://home.arcor.de/skateyoyo/Clips/Sl ... ingen2.WMV

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Post by Chris Eggers » Fri Apr 04, 2003 10:08 am

You can find new infos and photos on the course and road and surface on http://www.pscontest.ch under "course"

New detailed photos will be added soon


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Post by Vlad Popov » Sat Apr 05, 2003 4:00 am

I have a couple of questions to the organizers of this race. I've read the courses' description, but it would be wonderfull if you can confirm that here.

Some of us in the US are afraid that this event will be similar to Morro Bay 2001- a longboard slalom rather then traditional slalom. Because modern Swiss slalomers favor long boards, we’re worried that the courses are going to be set to accommodate the "new" slalom style rather then the classic slalom style. After all, a very famous Swiss slalomer, Daniel Ridoli, left after his first attempt last year (possibly because cone distances were extremely large). And he was one of the best slalomers in the world not long ago. When you call 2003 race a TS, do you mean 2003 standards or 1990s Swiss standards? How will it differ from the race last year? (What were the distances last year and please confirm 1.7 m to 2 m in TS if it's so).


Is there a way to make sure that all the registered Italian racers are coming or at least have expressed an interest? Can Paul Gatti and Giammarco Luca be personally contacted to confirm their knowledge of the race and their intent to come (not through a third party)?

We want to come, but we want to make sure it’s not going to be another longboarder’s race.
I did go overboard in my questions, just tell me it ain't so, and you'll make more then one person happy.

Thank you,
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Post by Chris Eggers » Sat Apr 05, 2003 11:13 am

Hey Vlad,

the problem last year was that the swiss were not prepared for the course Chris Linford set. If his course would have been the competition course 75 percent of the racers would not have made the course at all.
So what will be done this year are 2 courses, one tight and one semi-tight like at the tunnel race. You can ask the english guys and they will confirm that sundays course was tight! Count on 1,70 - 2 meters on saturday in Grueningen.

As for the italians.I don´´t know. They have registered so I think they will show up.
I think if you would register only if it is sure that they will come would be a little lame. Believe me that there will be enough competition for you. At least I will fill you up with enough beer the evening before the race to suck out the strength of your legs....hehe. a little fun on the side.

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Post by Vlad Popov » Mon Apr 07, 2003 5:15 pm

Thank you Chris. Let’s hope the format is as promised and is not voted off the last minute and substituted with longboard slalom.
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Train hard!
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Post by Chris Eggers » Mon Apr 07, 2003 10:32 pm

There is a format in written words and the organizers are swiss and have cooperation with me and Joe, you know what our backgrounds are and what swiss precision means. That should be enough. Besides swiss cheese an chocolate. see you.Prost!

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Post by Glenn S » Thu Apr 10, 2003 5:53 pm

Chris,
The spacing of 1.7 to 2.0 meters(5.5 to 6.5 feet) sounds like it is to be quite a bit tighter than what this race has been in the recent past.

And it seems to go against what Swiss slalom board makers have been building in the recent past. Do any of the European board builder offer decks with wheelbases to handle this spacing? I always thought that Airflow and Indiana decks were longboard decks.

Course discription: http://www.pscontest.ch/eventse.htm

Can you confirm that this TS race will have no spacing greater than 6.5ft?

Do you ever get to skate at this location and have you tried a course here with this spacing?

From the video clip provided above by Yoyo, that clip is not even close. That must be the GS course?

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Post by Chris Eggers » Fri Apr 11, 2003 11:47 am

Glenn,
you are exactly right, the race this year will be different. It will have a true tight slalom on Saturday with the course as described on the website (please don´t kill me if you find some cones spaced 7.2 feet instead of 6.5) it will be a true technical tight course. I was responsible for the text regarding the course and I am there to assure a real tight course on Saturday. I will most likely not set it, but I will be envolved in the layout for sure.
Sundays course will be a lot wider but still more challenging than last year. The organizers are convinced that true progression can only come with challenging courses and the swiss are practicing, believe me.
Your are also right that most of the boards are longboards, but they are working on new designs. As always they want to make perfect designs, so the boards are well tested.

Last year I skated on the course you see in the video. The course was set by Chris Linford and it was alot tighter than it looks in the video. The clip is filmed with a mega fisheye, so cone distances look a lot larger than in reality. It was a tight, for sure not a GS. The guys skating are Chris Linford and Martin Drayton, both have incredible tight slalom abilities, so the course looks a lot easier than it actually was.
The course you see was NOT used in the actual race on Sunday because 75% of the racers would not have made it to the 10th cone. So this year will be a two day affair, two races, two different courses, one tight, one larger for everyone. You will see!








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Post by John Gilmour » Fri Apr 11, 2003 6:26 pm

Hi Chris- In the last decade not many Americans have made the trip to Europe to compete and that is a shame.

I would like to offer some advice to help change this.

If you were to publish the course layout I think many more Americans would consider making the trip.

I also hope that doing so might encourage American organizers to do the same for others traveling.
(it would help to reduce hte amount of gear carried)


I do not run English slalom nor do I have the gear for it- lest I tear an old soft s-camber from Bill Tways cold dead fingers.

So I am concerned to see what the minimum spacing will be measured center on center. If the course is 5.5 between the cones it is far easier for me than 5.5 on center. That being said- it is likely that there will be more UK skaters attending than USA skaters so the course should likely be set for the majority.

Also I noticed the hill does not have much pitch.

How fast would you roll at the bottom if you started with say 3 pushes and went straight the length of the course?

Can we have shot of a 608 bearing on the surface to show the surface quality?

I am just curious if the slalom hill will be anything like Hombrechtikon's amazing hill- or if the pitch will be much less.

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Post by Chris Eggers » Fri Apr 11, 2003 6:58 pm

John,

first of all we will not publish any course in advance, because it takes away some tension. It should be some kind of surprise, don´t you think?

Regarding the pitch: it is not much, you will have to pump. Hard.

If you take 3 hard pushes on top you will be too fast to step off and run it out at the bottom though.
I will maybe go to Switzerland a few weeks befor the race if I find the time and give a short report again.

It will not be english slalom.

Like I said before something close to the Tunnel race, ask Sharon.

I will ask Jadranko for a surface photo with a bearing.

As for all the US skaters making the trip. it will be so cool to have you here, but you know, you´ll have to be able to adapt on a short notice to every course.

I can assure you, if the weather turns out as good as the years before and everything goes according to the plan of the organizers, it will be a great weekend. Looking forward to seeing you all!

Chris

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Post by John Gilmour » Fri Apr 11, 2003 8:56 pm

I signed up and will get there. Anyone know any particularly good airfare deals?

I'm sorry to ask what it will be like- course wise but I just want to make sure I have an accurate idea of what to expect so I can bring what is needed.

Wesley Tucker published a course for the Folly Beach course and I was able to use the board I had planned- this greatly simplified what I had to carry.

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Post by Chris Eggers » Sat May 03, 2003 7:48 pm

Here are the flyers for the Grueningen race:



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Thanks for the help Adam!

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Post by Chris Eggers » Thu May 08, 2003 8:00 am

The course description on http://www.pscontest.ch is now complete with photos of the surface for the wheel fanatics. It is smoother than it looks.

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Post by Joachim Leonhardt » Thu May 08, 2003 9:07 pm

Thank you Chris good to know more about the course and the road.

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Post by Maria Carrasco » Wed May 14, 2003 3:47 pm

Sounds like a really great time! Working on travel arrangements now for the Brown Bomber and his trusty sidekick with the camera always rolling . . . ha ha Really hoping to make it to this one!

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Post by Chris Eggers » Sun May 18, 2003 12:11 pm

Maria, dark channels have informed me that you have booked the flights! This is great.

Register the Brown Bomber on the website at http://www.pscontest.ch

That will look great!

see you soon,

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Post by Chris Eggers » Mon May 19, 2003 4:51 pm

The flyers are in this post:

viewtopic.php?topic=371&forum=85&3

I suggest we just use this post here in the future to avoid confusion and info getting lost.

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Post by Vlad Popov » Tue May 20, 2003 2:33 am

Cheap flights to Zurich? Anyone know any? Around $500?
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Post by Chris Eggers » Tue May 20, 2003 11:30 am

That should not be a problem I think.
Vlad, if you only find a flight to a German destination which is cheaper (could be, because flights to Switzerland are expensive, I don´t know why) we could arrange a meeting and take you with us. I will maybe drive down on the Wednesday before the race because it is a holiday here and I will take the Friday off of work.

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Post by Maria Carrasco » Wed May 21, 2003 6:21 pm

Yes Chris -- it is confirmed -- we have plane tickets!! Decided that the new car could wait and we are applying the "down payment" to this trip instead . . . Also treating it as a belated wedding anniversary trip of sorts too.

We are both so looking forward to this trip and racing with all of you. Well actually, Richy "Brown Bomber" will be racing and of course, I will be shooting video . . .:wink:

Our journey will start in London and we will race at Brands Hatch. Later in the week, we are planning to hop the EasyJet to Zurich for the rest of our trip and of course the weekend of racing. Any tips on lodging in Switzerland? Now that I have the airfare arranged, it's time to iron out all the other details. Any info about local attractions we should consider would be great too. We've never been to Switzerland before so can't wait!

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Post by Chris Eggers » Wed May 21, 2003 7:21 pm

Hi Maria and Richie,

there will be info on lodging available on the website http://www.pscontest.ch in a few days.

Attractions on the way? Wow. There are a lot!
What are you looking for? Some sightseeing? Americans usually look for old stuff like buildings and stuff. Do you like that too? You should defenitely check out Zurich City and the lake, it is beautiful.
You could also check out Engelberg, it has a glacier you can take a gondola up to.

There is a lot. I suggest buying a visitor guide for the long flight.

See you soon, and ask us whatever you consider important.

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Post by Chris Eggers » Wed May 28, 2003 12:23 pm

In the news:

There is a advertisement film for the race which will be shown on national TV in Switzerland the week before the race.
You find it in the German part of the site http://www.pscontest.ch at "werbespot". Windoze media player needed.

Also in the News:

Tickets for the Party can be purchased in advance:

Tommy Thompson, Wetzikon

Time Out Sport Shop, Uster

Rollladen, Zuerich


There have been a lot of inquiries from people who want to race but think the registered racers, especially those from abroad are too advanced.
Some of them are Pro Skaters who race since more than 2 decades.

Therefor we decided to split into two categories Pro and Am. There will be two seperate races.

All those who are not too advanced are encouraged to come and compete and all are welcome!


Vorverkaufsstellen für die Party stehen fest. Ab dem 2. Juni sind die Tickets an folgenden stellen erhältlich:

Tommy Thompson, Wetzikon

Time Out, Sport Shop, Uster

Rollladen, Zürich



22.05.2003

Es haben sich Leute gemeldet, die gerne am Contest fahren möchten, jedoch glauben dass die Fahrer aus dem Ausland zu stark sind für sie.
Die Fahrer aus dem Ausland sind wirklich Profi Skater, einige von Ihnen betreiben diese Sportart auch seit ca. 30 Jahren.

Deswegen werden wir auch zwischen Profi und Amateur unterscheiden. Es wird zwei verschiedene Wertungen geben.

Also auch die dies nicht so gut können, ihr seid herzlich willkommen !!

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Post by Hans Koraeus » Thu May 29, 2003 12:21 pm

I have found some cheap air tickets to Geneve.

Is there anyone in Geneve going to the race in Zurich on Thursday or Friday?

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Post by Hans Koraeus » Thu May 29, 2003 12:31 pm

Very good news about splitting skaters into two different course setttings (Pro and Am) for Tight slalom.

Is this also done for Giant slalom?

For giant slalom it is generally not as critical since it's easier to control speed. But that doesn't mean you can't have 2 different result lists afterwards. One for Pro's and one for Am's.

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Post by John Gilmour » Thu May 29, 2003 2:42 pm

Will this event be considered an ISSA event this year?

Also will there be any pre race meetings and so forth? I just would loike to know what dates are best to book.

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Post by Hans Koraeus » Thu May 29, 2003 4:29 pm

John, this year we will not be very strict on what will be considered ISSA competitions or not. If it's big enough and gather enough of people from different countries it will get a high status. For Greuningen this is not a problem.

If you are thinking about rules see the ISSA rules as general guidelines for organizers. The final rules for competitions are always up to the competition organizers to decide. If you are concerned about any specific thing here you must ask the origanizers. You can't take for granted that the ISSA guidelines will be followed to the point. If any confusion may occur that they have not thought of hopefully the ISSA guidelines will have an imoportant role though.

If you are thinking about future ISSA world ranking points this competition in Switzerland will probably be the one with the highest status for 2003 in Europe.

Once the ISSA World ranking is up and running for next year hopefully we wil be able to decide the status of competitions in advance.

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Post by Chris Eggers » Fri May 30, 2003 8:55 am

Hi John.

I think we also wanted to split the Giant slalom into two catergories. It makes sense.
There will be racer meetings before the races start to once again state the rules and make sure everyone understands.

I will maybe be in Switzerland from the Thursday on because it is a holiday here and I have already taken the Friday off. It depends a little if Vlad wants to fly into Germany on the Friday.

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Post by Chris Eggers » Mon Jun 02, 2003 8:43 am

There are photos from the "Bunker" on the homepage now. see "accommodations"

it is for free, please leave the place like you find it.

Bring a sleeping bag.

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Post by Maria Carrasco » Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:17 am

Wow -- it's almost that time. Are there any other lodging recommendations for the area near the race site? We are actually leaving for London on June 12 so I'll need to make some reservations soon. Thanks for any suggestions!

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Post by Chris Eggers » Tue Jun 03, 2003 10:09 am

Grueningen is very small, so there are not many hotels or bed and breakfasts, but I think it will not be a problem to find a place to stay, The Swiss are very hospitable people by the way, so maybe you may find a place at a skaters house. You come here everyday anyway? I will post info as soon as I have it myself.

Now:

there is one Hotel very close to Grueningen that offers deals to contest skaters:

Hotel Uster
http://www.hotelilluster.ch
about 10 km from Grueningen
The race site can be reached easily.
Prices:
Single 98 SFR
Double 128 SFR
Triple 165 SFR

includes breakfast


Reservations must be made in advance during the following 2-3 days, because there will be a major bicycle race in the area (Tour de Suisse) on the 23rd of June.

When making a reservation please mention the Slalom Skateboard Contest and the name RADOVANOVIC

Jadranko RADOVANOVIC can also make the reservation for you if you email him:

jadranko_r@bluewin.ch


There are also many small towns near Grueningen. If you use http://www.google.ch and search for the following town names and "HOTEL" you will find many adresses:

Hotel Rapperswil
Hotel Rüti
Hotel Uster
Hotel Zürich
Hotel Gossau
Hotel Wetzikon


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Post by Maria Carrasco » Wed Jun 04, 2003 1:47 am

Thanks again Chris. I have done some internet searches for Grueningen but there isn't much info out there (at least in English) . . . So I'm still not sure of some logistics- namely -- How far is Grueningen from Zurich by train?

We're flying into Zurich on EasyJet on Thursday early a.m. Thinking we will spend that day and night there and then venture closer to the race locale by Friday night. Probably train to Grueningen from Zurich and stay close Fri, Sat, Sun. Returning home from Zurich on Monday 10:55 a.m.

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Post by Chris Eggers » Wed Jun 04, 2003 8:39 am

Yes you will not find many infos about Grüningen itself. It is a VERY small town/village.
It is not far from Zürich, about 33 minutes by car, I think about 50 minutes or less by public transport. The hotel guys in Zürich will be able to tell you how to get there I am sure. Swiss public transport is more perfect than car traffic in Zürich.

See the route at

http://www.map24.de/map24/routing.php3? ... efc94b84f7

if this does not work check http://www.map24.de and type in start: Zürich destination: Grüningen

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Post by Chris Eggers » Thu Jun 05, 2003 12:37 pm

As we are getting closer and closer to the race the organizing committee loaded another short film onto the website http://www.pscontest.ch to wet your appetite. It features great skaters like Sharon Sidlo, Jani Söderhäll, Gianluca Ferrero, Martin Siegrist, the new born Pro Edwin Brokman and many others at the Tunnel race and a few bonus scenes and chrashes. Check it out in the news section. Enjoy.



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Post by Howard Gordon » Tue Jun 10, 2003 11:23 pm

We're arriving Zurich Tuesday morning, and will travel to Lauterbrunnen in the Bernese Oberland for 3 nights (Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday) before travelling to Gruningen, hopefully staying at Hotel Illuster in Uster for Friday and Saturday nights.

If anyone knows of any slalom practice sessions during Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday in the Interlaken region, please let us know. Otherwise, can we find a practice session in Gruningen during Friday ?

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Post by Hans Koraeus » Wed Jun 11, 2003 3:01 am

Ahh, I hate when I miss out on nice slalom films. The film on the site is streamed somehow so I can't see it properly. I guess you have to have a broadband connection or something to make that film show smoothly.

Why not letting people download the film instead? Then everybody could enjoy it.

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Post by Chris Eggers » Wed Jun 11, 2003 9:43 am


Otherwise, can we find a practice session in Gruningen during Friday ?

Check out the race site on friday evening. Werkhof Areal in Grueningen. We will be there to make final preparations and skate a little. See you soon.

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