Parallelslalom Race Grueningen, Schweiz 21./22. Juni 2003
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Announcement
Parallelslalom Contest Grueningen Switzerland
This is a pre-announcement for the famous Parallelslalom Race in Grueningen, Switzerland.
The race will be held for the fourth time now once again organized by the Youth-Generation Association.
The complete Swiss scene will be there as well as racers from all over Europe and hopefully the world.
For those of you who have been fortunate enough to have attended the race in 2002 you will remember the road for not having proper pavement in the upper section where the race was not held. This has been done for next year, the road has perfect pavement all the way now so the course will be significantly longer than in 2002. There will be photos available soon.
The stats:
Date: 21./22. June 2003
Place: Grueningen/Switzerland (nearest international Airport: Zuerich)
Categories: Girls, Juniors (16 and younger), Men
Disciplines: Tight and Giant Slalom (Sat/Sun not decided yet), ramp start, electronic timing
Entry fee: 15 - 20 SFR
Prices: 1.000 SFR first place (3.000-4.000 SFR whole purse) plus stuff prices (still looking for sponsors, interested companies please contact us)
Accomodation: for free in the bunker, Hotels will be listed on the homepage
There will be a party for all on Saturday evening (lets make our own Savage Club)
Homepage: http://www.pscontest.ch (update available January 2003)
Contact: jadranko.radovanovic@swissaxis.com
Ankündigung
Parallelslalom Contest, Grueningen, Schweiz
Dies ist eine Vorankündigung für das berühmte Parallelslalomrennen in Grueningen, Schweiz
Das Rennen wird nun zum vierten Mal abgehalten werden und wird wieder von der Youth-Generation Grueningen organisiert.
Die ganze schweizer Slalom Szene wird anwesend sein und auch Fahrer aus ganz Europa und hoffentlich aus der ganzen Welt.
Diejenigen glücklichen die letztes Jahr schon da waren werden sich daran erinnern dass die Strasse im oberen Bereich, wo das Rennen nicht statt fand, nicht gut asphaltiert war. Dies wurde inzwischen bereinigt so dass der Kurs bedeutend länger als letztes Jahr sein wird. Photos der Strasse werden demnächst erhältlich sein.
Die Daten:
Datum: 21./22. Juni 2003
Ort: Grueningen/Schweiz (nähester Internationaler Flughafen: Zürich)
Kategorien: Damen, Junioren (16 und jünger), Männer
Disziplinen: Tight und Giant Slalom (es ist noch nicht entschieden welcher Kurs Samstag oder Sonntag), Ramp Start, elektronische Zeitmessanlage
Startgeld: 15-20 SFR
Preise: 1.000 SFR (gesamt: 3.000-4.000 SFR) und Sachpreise (wir suchen noch nach Sponsoren, bei Interesse bitte melden)
Übernachtungsmöglichkeiten: umsonst im Zivilbunker, Hotels werden auf der Homepage aufgelistet.
Am Samstag abend wird eine Party stattfinden
Homepage: http://www.pscontest.ch (update ab Januar 2003)
Kontakt: jadranko.radovanovic@swissaxis.com
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Parallelslalom Contest Grueningen Switzerland
This is a pre-announcement for the famous Parallelslalom Race in Grueningen, Switzerland.
The race will be held for the fourth time now once again organized by the Youth-Generation Association.
The complete Swiss scene will be there as well as racers from all over Europe and hopefully the world.
For those of you who have been fortunate enough to have attended the race in 2002 you will remember the road for not having proper pavement in the upper section where the race was not held. This has been done for next year, the road has perfect pavement all the way now so the course will be significantly longer than in 2002. There will be photos available soon.
The stats:
Date: 21./22. June 2003
Place: Grueningen/Switzerland (nearest international Airport: Zuerich)
Categories: Girls, Juniors (16 and younger), Men
Disciplines: Tight and Giant Slalom (Sat/Sun not decided yet), ramp start, electronic timing
Entry fee: 15 - 20 SFR
Prices: 1.000 SFR first place (3.000-4.000 SFR whole purse) plus stuff prices (still looking for sponsors, interested companies please contact us)
Accomodation: for free in the bunker, Hotels will be listed on the homepage
There will be a party for all on Saturday evening (lets make our own Savage Club)
Homepage: http://www.pscontest.ch (update available January 2003)
Contact: jadranko.radovanovic@swissaxis.com
Ankündigung
Parallelslalom Contest, Grueningen, Schweiz
Dies ist eine Vorankündigung für das berühmte Parallelslalomrennen in Grueningen, Schweiz
Das Rennen wird nun zum vierten Mal abgehalten werden und wird wieder von der Youth-Generation Grueningen organisiert.
Die ganze schweizer Slalom Szene wird anwesend sein und auch Fahrer aus ganz Europa und hoffentlich aus der ganzen Welt.
Diejenigen glücklichen die letztes Jahr schon da waren werden sich daran erinnern dass die Strasse im oberen Bereich, wo das Rennen nicht statt fand, nicht gut asphaltiert war. Dies wurde inzwischen bereinigt so dass der Kurs bedeutend länger als letztes Jahr sein wird. Photos der Strasse werden demnächst erhältlich sein.
Die Daten:
Datum: 21./22. Juni 2003
Ort: Grueningen/Schweiz (nähester Internationaler Flughafen: Zürich)
Kategorien: Damen, Junioren (16 und jünger), Männer
Disziplinen: Tight und Giant Slalom (es ist noch nicht entschieden welcher Kurs Samstag oder Sonntag), Ramp Start, elektronische Zeitmessanlage
Startgeld: 15-20 SFR
Preise: 1.000 SFR (gesamt: 3.000-4.000 SFR) und Sachpreise (wir suchen noch nach Sponsoren, bei Interesse bitte melden)
Übernachtungsmöglichkeiten: umsonst im Zivilbunker, Hotels werden auf der Homepage aufgelistet.
Am Samstag abend wird eine Party stattfinden
Homepage: http://www.pscontest.ch (update ab Januar 2003)
Kontakt: jadranko.radovanovic@swissaxis.com
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A race this summer in Switzerland...sounds great. Count me in and I now have it on my calendar also, and I hope there will be other domestic skaters that will also make the journey overseas 'cause I'd hate to see the slowest skater on the FCR tour be the only representative from the US.
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Hi Chris,
I am very interested in making at least one trip over to race in Europe this year. Could you describe the courses as compared to the Morro Bay course? Are average cone distances like 4ft apart or somewhere closer to 6ft? Is altitude a factor? What would be an ideal board setup for the course? Any information you could provide will help greatly.
thanks,
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I am very interested in making at least one trip over to race in Europe this year. Could you describe the courses as compared to the Morro Bay course? Are average cone distances like 4ft apart or somewhere closer to 6ft? Is altitude a factor? What would be an ideal board setup for the course? Any information you could provide will help greatly.
thanks,
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If you want to have a little view of the race site you can check the report on http://www.sk8mag.de from 2002
go to:
http://www.sk8mag.de/contests/grueningen02/
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go to:
http://www.sk8mag.de/contests/grueningen02/
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I just deleted my own post with my answer to Michael....urgh computers....hate it, need it.
Anyway who has certain plans to come? I heard of the enlish dudes, Michael, Paul, ED.
Jani and Hans, Mr. Dong, JG, Howard Gordon, Attila, Carrascos (several?).....any one else? Sharon?
Ok a little early, but it would be cool to have a line up of the stars in the next plea for sponsors..
Anyway who has certain plans to come? I heard of the enlish dudes, Michael, Paul, ED.
Jani and Hans, Mr. Dong, JG, Howard Gordon, Attila, Carrascos (several?).....any one else? Sharon?
Ok a little early, but it would be cool to have a line up of the stars in the next plea for sponsors..
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there are some Video clips of Martin Drayton & Chris Linford at this race in 2002 on the Ukssa website
go to
http://www.ukssa.net
click onto video's
Paul K
go to
http://www.ukssa.net
click onto video's
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http://www.pscontest.ch now welcomes the Italian delegation to the starters list. More than 3 months until the race starts and already nearly 40 racers registered. Can someone please count how many nations will be represented?
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You can find new infos on http://www.pscontest.ch in several updates in the coming weeks from now on. There are infos about the saturday night party online now.
http://www.pscontest.ch is online since 1 year now. There were 5869 visitors registered up until today.
Total klicks were 152.739. The site has been visited from more than 30 countries.
http://www.pscontest.ch is online since 1 year now. There were 5869 visitors registered up until today.
Total klicks were 152.739. The site has been visited from more than 30 countries.
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Here is a link to last year's Saturday practice session...
http://home.arcor.de/skateyoyo/Clips/Sl ... ingen2.WMV
YOYO
http://home.arcor.de/skateyoyo/Clips/Sl ... ingen2.WMV
YOYO
![Image](http://home.arcor.de/skateyoyo/Fotos/yoyo_grue_2005.jpg)
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You can find new infos and photos on the course and road and surface on http://www.pscontest.ch under "course"
New detailed photos will be added soon
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New detailed photos will be added soon
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I have a couple of questions to the organizers of this race. I've read the courses' description, but it would be wonderfull if you can confirm that here.
Some of us in the US are afraid that this event will be similar to Morro Bay 2001- a longboard slalom rather then traditional slalom. Because modern Swiss slalomers favor long boards, we’re worried that the courses are going to be set to accommodate the "new" slalom style rather then the classic slalom style. After all, a very famous Swiss slalomer, Daniel Ridoli, left after his first attempt last year (possibly because cone distances were extremely large). And he was one of the best slalomers in the world not long ago. When you call 2003 race a TS, do you mean 2003 standards or 1990s Swiss standards? How will it differ from the race last year? (What were the distances last year and please confirm 1.7 m to 2 m in TS if it's so).
Is there a way to make sure that all the registered Italian racers are coming or at least have expressed an interest? Can Paul Gatti and Giammarco Luca be personally contacted to confirm their knowledge of the race and their intent to come (not through a third party)?
We want to come, but we want to make sure it’s not going to be another longboarder’s race.
I did go overboard in my questions, just tell me it ain't so, and you'll make more then one person happy.
Thank you,
Vlad (on behalf of self and other interested US parties).
Some of us in the US are afraid that this event will be similar to Morro Bay 2001- a longboard slalom rather then traditional slalom. Because modern Swiss slalomers favor long boards, we’re worried that the courses are going to be set to accommodate the "new" slalom style rather then the classic slalom style. After all, a very famous Swiss slalomer, Daniel Ridoli, left after his first attempt last year (possibly because cone distances were extremely large). And he was one of the best slalomers in the world not long ago. When you call 2003 race a TS, do you mean 2003 standards or 1990s Swiss standards? How will it differ from the race last year? (What were the distances last year and please confirm 1.7 m to 2 m in TS if it's so).
Is there a way to make sure that all the registered Italian racers are coming or at least have expressed an interest? Can Paul Gatti and Giammarco Luca be personally contacted to confirm their knowledge of the race and their intent to come (not through a third party)?
We want to come, but we want to make sure it’s not going to be another longboarder’s race.
I did go overboard in my questions, just tell me it ain't so, and you'll make more then one person happy.
Thank you,
Vlad (on behalf of self and other interested US parties).
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Hey Vlad,
the problem last year was that the swiss were not prepared for the course Chris Linford set. If his course would have been the competition course 75 percent of the racers would not have made the course at all.
So what will be done this year are 2 courses, one tight and one semi-tight like at the tunnel race. You can ask the english guys and they will confirm that sundays course was tight! Count on 1,70 - 2 meters on saturday in Grueningen.
As for the italians.I don´´t know. They have registered so I think they will show up.
I think if you would register only if it is sure that they will come would be a little lame. Believe me that there will be enough competition for you. At least I will fill you up with enough beer the evening before the race to suck out the strength of your legs....hehe. a little fun on the side.
the problem last year was that the swiss were not prepared for the course Chris Linford set. If his course would have been the competition course 75 percent of the racers would not have made the course at all.
So what will be done this year are 2 courses, one tight and one semi-tight like at the tunnel race. You can ask the english guys and they will confirm that sundays course was tight! Count on 1,70 - 2 meters on saturday in Grueningen.
As for the italians.I don´´t know. They have registered so I think they will show up.
I think if you would register only if it is sure that they will come would be a little lame. Believe me that there will be enough competition for you. At least I will fill you up with enough beer the evening before the race to suck out the strength of your legs....hehe. a little fun on the side.
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Chris,
The spacing of 1.7 to 2.0 meters(5.5 to 6.5 feet) sounds like it is to be quite a bit tighter than what this race has been in the recent past.
And it seems to go against what Swiss slalom board makers have been building in the recent past. Do any of the European board builder offer decks with wheelbases to handle this spacing? I always thought that Airflow and Indiana decks were longboard decks.
Course discription: http://www.pscontest.ch/eventse.htm
Can you confirm that this TS race will have no spacing greater than 6.5ft?
Do you ever get to skate at this location and have you tried a course here with this spacing?
From the video clip provided above by Yoyo, that clip is not even close. That must be the GS course?
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The spacing of 1.7 to 2.0 meters(5.5 to 6.5 feet) sounds like it is to be quite a bit tighter than what this race has been in the recent past.
And it seems to go against what Swiss slalom board makers have been building in the recent past. Do any of the European board builder offer decks with wheelbases to handle this spacing? I always thought that Airflow and Indiana decks were longboard decks.
Course discription: http://www.pscontest.ch/eventse.htm
Can you confirm that this TS race will have no spacing greater than 6.5ft?
Do you ever get to skate at this location and have you tried a course here with this spacing?
From the video clip provided above by Yoyo, that clip is not even close. That must be the GS course?
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Glenn,
you are exactly right, the race this year will be different. It will have a true tight slalom on Saturday with the course as described on the website (please don´t kill me if you find some cones spaced 7.2 feet instead of 6.5) it will be a true technical tight course. I was responsible for the text regarding the course and I am there to assure a real tight course on Saturday. I will most likely not set it, but I will be envolved in the layout for sure.
Sundays course will be a lot wider but still more challenging than last year. The organizers are convinced that true progression can only come with challenging courses and the swiss are practicing, believe me.
Your are also right that most of the boards are longboards, but they are working on new designs. As always they want to make perfect designs, so the boards are well tested.
Last year I skated on the course you see in the video. The course was set by Chris Linford and it was alot tighter than it looks in the video. The clip is filmed with a mega fisheye, so cone distances look a lot larger than in reality. It was a tight, for sure not a GS. The guys skating are Chris Linford and Martin Drayton, both have incredible tight slalom abilities, so the course looks a lot easier than it actually was.
The course you see was NOT used in the actual race on Sunday because 75% of the racers would not have made it to the 10th cone. So this year will be a two day affair, two races, two different courses, one tight, one larger for everyone. You will see!
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you are exactly right, the race this year will be different. It will have a true tight slalom on Saturday with the course as described on the website (please don´t kill me if you find some cones spaced 7.2 feet instead of 6.5) it will be a true technical tight course. I was responsible for the text regarding the course and I am there to assure a real tight course on Saturday. I will most likely not set it, but I will be envolved in the layout for sure.
Sundays course will be a lot wider but still more challenging than last year. The organizers are convinced that true progression can only come with challenging courses and the swiss are practicing, believe me.
Your are also right that most of the boards are longboards, but they are working on new designs. As always they want to make perfect designs, so the boards are well tested.
Last year I skated on the course you see in the video. The course was set by Chris Linford and it was alot tighter than it looks in the video. The clip is filmed with a mega fisheye, so cone distances look a lot larger than in reality. It was a tight, for sure not a GS. The guys skating are Chris Linford and Martin Drayton, both have incredible tight slalom abilities, so the course looks a lot easier than it actually was.
The course you see was NOT used in the actual race on Sunday because 75% of the racers would not have made it to the 10th cone. So this year will be a two day affair, two races, two different courses, one tight, one larger for everyone. You will see!
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Hi Chris- In the last decade not many Americans have made the trip to Europe to compete and that is a shame.
I would like to offer some advice to help change this.
If you were to publish the course layout I think many more Americans would consider making the trip.
I also hope that doing so might encourage American organizers to do the same for others traveling.
(it would help to reduce hte amount of gear carried)
I do not run English slalom nor do I have the gear for it- lest I tear an old soft s-camber from Bill Tways cold dead fingers.
So I am concerned to see what the minimum spacing will be measured center on center. If the course is 5.5 between the cones it is far easier for me than 5.5 on center. That being said- it is likely that there will be more UK skaters attending than USA skaters so the course should likely be set for the majority.
Also I noticed the hill does not have much pitch.
How fast would you roll at the bottom if you started with say 3 pushes and went straight the length of the course?
Can we have shot of a 608 bearing on the surface to show the surface quality?
I am just curious if the slalom hill will be anything like Hombrechtikon's amazing hill- or if the pitch will be much less.
I would like to offer some advice to help change this.
If you were to publish the course layout I think many more Americans would consider making the trip.
I also hope that doing so might encourage American organizers to do the same for others traveling.
(it would help to reduce hte amount of gear carried)
I do not run English slalom nor do I have the gear for it- lest I tear an old soft s-camber from Bill Tways cold dead fingers.
So I am concerned to see what the minimum spacing will be measured center on center. If the course is 5.5 between the cones it is far easier for me than 5.5 on center. That being said- it is likely that there will be more UK skaters attending than USA skaters so the course should likely be set for the majority.
Also I noticed the hill does not have much pitch.
How fast would you roll at the bottom if you started with say 3 pushes and went straight the length of the course?
Can we have shot of a 608 bearing on the surface to show the surface quality?
I am just curious if the slalom hill will be anything like Hombrechtikon's amazing hill- or if the pitch will be much less.
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John,
first of all we will not publish any course in advance, because it takes away some tension. It should be some kind of surprise, don´t you think?
Regarding the pitch: it is not much, you will have to pump. Hard.
If you take 3 hard pushes on top you will be too fast to step off and run it out at the bottom though.
I will maybe go to Switzerland a few weeks befor the race if I find the time and give a short report again.
It will not be english slalom.
Like I said before something close to the Tunnel race, ask Sharon.
I will ask Jadranko for a surface photo with a bearing.
As for all the US skaters making the trip. it will be so cool to have you here, but you know, you´ll have to be able to adapt on a short notice to every course.
I can assure you, if the weather turns out as good as the years before and everything goes according to the plan of the organizers, it will be a great weekend. Looking forward to seeing you all!
Chris
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first of all we will not publish any course in advance, because it takes away some tension. It should be some kind of surprise, don´t you think?
Regarding the pitch: it is not much, you will have to pump. Hard.
If you take 3 hard pushes on top you will be too fast to step off and run it out at the bottom though.
I will maybe go to Switzerland a few weeks befor the race if I find the time and give a short report again.
It will not be english slalom.
Like I said before something close to the Tunnel race, ask Sharon.
I will ask Jadranko for a surface photo with a bearing.
As for all the US skaters making the trip. it will be so cool to have you here, but you know, you´ll have to be able to adapt on a short notice to every course.
I can assure you, if the weather turns out as good as the years before and everything goes according to the plan of the organizers, it will be a great weekend. Looking forward to seeing you all!
Chris
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I signed up and will get there. Anyone know any particularly good airfare deals?
I'm sorry to ask what it will be like- course wise but I just want to make sure I have an accurate idea of what to expect so I can bring what is needed.
Wesley Tucker published a course for the Folly Beach course and I was able to use the board I had planned- this greatly simplified what I had to carry.
I'm sorry to ask what it will be like- course wise but I just want to make sure I have an accurate idea of what to expect so I can bring what is needed.
Wesley Tucker published a course for the Folly Beach course and I was able to use the board I had planned- this greatly simplified what I had to carry.
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The course description on http://www.pscontest.ch is now complete with photos of the surface for the wheel fanatics. It is smoother than it looks.
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Maria, dark channels have informed me that you have booked the flights! This is great.
Register the Brown Bomber on the website at http://www.pscontest.ch
That will look great!
see you soon,
chris
Register the Brown Bomber on the website at http://www.pscontest.ch
That will look great!
see you soon,
chris
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The flyers are in this post:
viewtopic.php?topic=371&forum=85&3
I suggest we just use this post here in the future to avoid confusion and info getting lost.
viewtopic.php?topic=371&forum=85&3
I suggest we just use this post here in the future to avoid confusion and info getting lost.
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That should not be a problem I think.
Vlad, if you only find a flight to a German destination which is cheaper (could be, because flights to Switzerland are expensive, I don´t know why) we could arrange a meeting and take you with us. I will maybe drive down on the Wednesday before the race because it is a holiday here and I will take the Friday off of work.
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Vlad, if you only find a flight to a German destination which is cheaper (could be, because flights to Switzerland are expensive, I don´t know why) we could arrange a meeting and take you with us. I will maybe drive down on the Wednesday before the race because it is a holiday here and I will take the Friday off of work.
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Yes Chris -- it is confirmed -- we have plane tickets!! Decided that the new car could wait and we are applying the "down payment" to this trip instead . . . Also treating it as a belated wedding anniversary trip of sorts too.
We are both so looking forward to this trip and racing with all of you. Well actually, Richy "Brown Bomber" will be racing and of course, I will be shooting video . . .
Our journey will start in London and we will race at Brands Hatch. Later in the week, we are planning to hop the EasyJet to Zurich for the rest of our trip and of course the weekend of racing. Any tips on lodging in Switzerland? Now that I have the airfare arranged, it's time to iron out all the other details. Any info about local attractions we should consider would be great too. We've never been to Switzerland before so can't wait!
We are both so looking forward to this trip and racing with all of you. Well actually, Richy "Brown Bomber" will be racing and of course, I will be shooting video . . .
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Our journey will start in London and we will race at Brands Hatch. Later in the week, we are planning to hop the EasyJet to Zurich for the rest of our trip and of course the weekend of racing. Any tips on lodging in Switzerland? Now that I have the airfare arranged, it's time to iron out all the other details. Any info about local attractions we should consider would be great too. We've never been to Switzerland before so can't wait!
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Hi Maria and Richie,
there will be info on lodging available on the website http://www.pscontest.ch in a few days.
Attractions on the way? Wow. There are a lot!
What are you looking for? Some sightseeing? Americans usually look for old stuff like buildings and stuff. Do you like that too? You should defenitely check out Zurich City and the lake, it is beautiful.
You could also check out Engelberg, it has a glacier you can take a gondola up to.
There is a lot. I suggest buying a visitor guide for the long flight.
See you soon, and ask us whatever you consider important.
there will be info on lodging available on the website http://www.pscontest.ch in a few days.
Attractions on the way? Wow. There are a lot!
What are you looking for? Some sightseeing? Americans usually look for old stuff like buildings and stuff. Do you like that too? You should defenitely check out Zurich City and the lake, it is beautiful.
You could also check out Engelberg, it has a glacier you can take a gondola up to.
There is a lot. I suggest buying a visitor guide for the long flight.
See you soon, and ask us whatever you consider important.
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In the news:
There is a advertisement film for the race which will be shown on national TV in Switzerland the week before the race.
You find it in the German part of the site http://www.pscontest.ch at "werbespot". Windoze media player needed.
Also in the News:
Tickets for the Party can be purchased in advance:
Tommy Thompson, Wetzikon
Time Out Sport Shop, Uster
Rollladen, Zuerich
There have been a lot of inquiries from people who want to race but think the registered racers, especially those from abroad are too advanced.
Some of them are Pro Skaters who race since more than 2 decades.
Therefor we decided to split into two categories Pro and Am. There will be two seperate races.
All those who are not too advanced are encouraged to come and compete and all are welcome!
Vorverkaufsstellen für die Party stehen fest. Ab dem 2. Juni sind die Tickets an folgenden stellen erhältlich:
Tommy Thompson, Wetzikon
Time Out, Sport Shop, Uster
Rollladen, Zürich
22.05.2003
Es haben sich Leute gemeldet, die gerne am Contest fahren möchten, jedoch glauben dass die Fahrer aus dem Ausland zu stark sind für sie.
Die Fahrer aus dem Ausland sind wirklich Profi Skater, einige von Ihnen betreiben diese Sportart auch seit ca. 30 Jahren.
Deswegen werden wir auch zwischen Profi und Amateur unterscheiden. Es wird zwei verschiedene Wertungen geben.
Also auch die dies nicht so gut können, ihr seid herzlich willkommen !!
There is a advertisement film for the race which will be shown on national TV in Switzerland the week before the race.
You find it in the German part of the site http://www.pscontest.ch at "werbespot". Windoze media player needed.
Also in the News:
Tickets for the Party can be purchased in advance:
Tommy Thompson, Wetzikon
Time Out Sport Shop, Uster
Rollladen, Zuerich
There have been a lot of inquiries from people who want to race but think the registered racers, especially those from abroad are too advanced.
Some of them are Pro Skaters who race since more than 2 decades.
Therefor we decided to split into two categories Pro and Am. There will be two seperate races.
All those who are not too advanced are encouraged to come and compete and all are welcome!
Vorverkaufsstellen für die Party stehen fest. Ab dem 2. Juni sind die Tickets an folgenden stellen erhältlich:
Tommy Thompson, Wetzikon
Time Out, Sport Shop, Uster
Rollladen, Zürich
22.05.2003
Es haben sich Leute gemeldet, die gerne am Contest fahren möchten, jedoch glauben dass die Fahrer aus dem Ausland zu stark sind für sie.
Die Fahrer aus dem Ausland sind wirklich Profi Skater, einige von Ihnen betreiben diese Sportart auch seit ca. 30 Jahren.
Deswegen werden wir auch zwischen Profi und Amateur unterscheiden. Es wird zwei verschiedene Wertungen geben.
Also auch die dies nicht so gut können, ihr seid herzlich willkommen !!
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Very good news about splitting skaters into two different course setttings (Pro and Am) for Tight slalom.
Is this also done for Giant slalom?
For giant slalom it is generally not as critical since it's easier to control speed. But that doesn't mean you can't have 2 different result lists afterwards. One for Pro's and one for Am's.
Is this also done for Giant slalom?
For giant slalom it is generally not as critical since it's easier to control speed. But that doesn't mean you can't have 2 different result lists afterwards. One for Pro's and one for Am's.
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John, this year we will not be very strict on what will be considered ISSA competitions or not. If it's big enough and gather enough of people from different countries it will get a high status. For Greuningen this is not a problem.
If you are thinking about rules see the ISSA rules as general guidelines for organizers. The final rules for competitions are always up to the competition organizers to decide. If you are concerned about any specific thing here you must ask the origanizers. You can't take for granted that the ISSA guidelines will be followed to the point. If any confusion may occur that they have not thought of hopefully the ISSA guidelines will have an imoportant role though.
If you are thinking about future ISSA world ranking points this competition in Switzerland will probably be the one with the highest status for 2003 in Europe.
Once the ISSA World ranking is up and running for next year hopefully we wil be able to decide the status of competitions in advance.
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If you are thinking about rules see the ISSA rules as general guidelines for organizers. The final rules for competitions are always up to the competition organizers to decide. If you are concerned about any specific thing here you must ask the origanizers. You can't take for granted that the ISSA guidelines will be followed to the point. If any confusion may occur that they have not thought of hopefully the ISSA guidelines will have an imoportant role though.
If you are thinking about future ISSA world ranking points this competition in Switzerland will probably be the one with the highest status for 2003 in Europe.
Once the ISSA World ranking is up and running for next year hopefully we wil be able to decide the status of competitions in advance.
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Hi John.
I think we also wanted to split the Giant slalom into two catergories. It makes sense.
There will be racer meetings before the races start to once again state the rules and make sure everyone understands.
I will maybe be in Switzerland from the Thursday on because it is a holiday here and I have already taken the Friday off. It depends a little if Vlad wants to fly into Germany on the Friday.
I think we also wanted to split the Giant slalom into two catergories. It makes sense.
There will be racer meetings before the races start to once again state the rules and make sure everyone understands.
I will maybe be in Switzerland from the Thursday on because it is a holiday here and I have already taken the Friday off. It depends a little if Vlad wants to fly into Germany on the Friday.
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Grueningen is very small, so there are not many hotels or bed and breakfasts, but I think it will not be a problem to find a place to stay, The Swiss are very hospitable people by the way, so maybe you may find a place at a skaters house. You come here everyday anyway? I will post info as soon as I have it myself.
Now:
there is one Hotel very close to Grueningen that offers deals to contest skaters:
Hotel Uster
http://www.hotelilluster.ch
about 10 km from Grueningen
The race site can be reached easily.
Prices:
Single 98 SFR
Double 128 SFR
Triple 165 SFR
includes breakfast
Reservations must be made in advance during the following 2-3 days, because there will be a major bicycle race in the area (Tour de Suisse) on the 23rd of June.
When making a reservation please mention the Slalom Skateboard Contest and the name RADOVANOVIC
Jadranko RADOVANOVIC can also make the reservation for you if you email him:
jadranko_r@bluewin.ch
There are also many small towns near Grueningen. If you use http://www.google.ch and search for the following town names and "HOTEL" you will find many adresses:
Hotel Rapperswil
Hotel Rüti
Hotel Uster
Hotel Zürich
Hotel Gossau
Hotel Wetzikon
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Now:
there is one Hotel very close to Grueningen that offers deals to contest skaters:
Hotel Uster
http://www.hotelilluster.ch
about 10 km from Grueningen
The race site can be reached easily.
Prices:
Single 98 SFR
Double 128 SFR
Triple 165 SFR
includes breakfast
Reservations must be made in advance during the following 2-3 days, because there will be a major bicycle race in the area (Tour de Suisse) on the 23rd of June.
When making a reservation please mention the Slalom Skateboard Contest and the name RADOVANOVIC
Jadranko RADOVANOVIC can also make the reservation for you if you email him:
jadranko_r@bluewin.ch
There are also many small towns near Grueningen. If you use http://www.google.ch and search for the following town names and "HOTEL" you will find many adresses:
Hotel Rapperswil
Hotel Rüti
Hotel Uster
Hotel Zürich
Hotel Gossau
Hotel Wetzikon
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Thanks again Chris. I have done some internet searches for Grueningen but there isn't much info out there (at least in English) . . . So I'm still not sure of some logistics- namely -- How far is Grueningen from Zurich by train?
We're flying into Zurich on EasyJet on Thursday early a.m. Thinking we will spend that day and night there and then venture closer to the race locale by Friday night. Probably train to Grueningen from Zurich and stay close Fri, Sat, Sun. Returning home from Zurich on Monday 10:55 a.m.
We're flying into Zurich on EasyJet on Thursday early a.m. Thinking we will spend that day and night there and then venture closer to the race locale by Friday night. Probably train to Grueningen from Zurich and stay close Fri, Sat, Sun. Returning home from Zurich on Monday 10:55 a.m.
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Yes you will not find many infos about Grüningen itself. It is a VERY small town/village.
It is not far from Zürich, about 33 minutes by car, I think about 50 minutes or less by public transport. The hotel guys in Zürich will be able to tell you how to get there I am sure. Swiss public transport is more perfect than car traffic in Zürich.
See the route at
http://www.map24.de/map24/routing.php3? ... efc94b84f7
if this does not work check http://www.map24.de and type in start: Zürich destination: Grüningen
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It is not far from Zürich, about 33 minutes by car, I think about 50 minutes or less by public transport. The hotel guys in Zürich will be able to tell you how to get there I am sure. Swiss public transport is more perfect than car traffic in Zürich.
See the route at
http://www.map24.de/map24/routing.php3? ... efc94b84f7
if this does not work check http://www.map24.de and type in start: Zürich destination: Grüningen
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As we are getting closer and closer to the race the organizing committee loaded another short film onto the website http://www.pscontest.ch to wet your appetite. It features great skaters like Sharon Sidlo, Jani Söderhäll, Gianluca Ferrero, Martin Siegrist, the new born Pro Edwin Brokman and many others at the Tunnel race and a few bonus scenes and chrashes. Check it out in the news section. Enjoy.
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We're arriving Zurich Tuesday morning, and will travel to Lauterbrunnen in the Bernese Oberland for 3 nights (Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday) before travelling to Gruningen, hopefully staying at Hotel Illuster in Uster for Friday and Saturday nights.
If anyone knows of any slalom practice sessions during Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday in the Interlaken region, please let us know. Otherwise, can we find a practice session in Gruningen during Friday ?
If anyone knows of any slalom practice sessions during Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday in the Interlaken region, please let us know. Otherwise, can we find a practice session in Gruningen during Friday ?
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