Red Clay Cup 2005

Ricky Byrd · Post by **Ricky Byrd** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 5:49 pm

66, The whole Byrd clan will be there. Looking forward to it again this year.

Rick Stanziale · Post by **Rick Stanziale** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:48 pm

http://athenstwilight.com/schedule.asp

Frank Henn · Post by **Frank Henn** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:24 pm

Add the Henn family to the mix. Would'nt miss it.

Marcos Soulsby-Monroy · Post by **Marcos Soulsby-Monroy** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:39 pm

Outlaws will abound!!!

Marcos

Derek Smith · Post by **Derek Smith** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:41 pm

This Masshole's all over it. Ams! Lycra! Beer! Iacovelli's Ass! That hill looks sick, perfect. Well done Rick. Can't wait.

Gary Fluitt · Post by **Gary Fluitt** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:07 pm

Rick,
Just curious what you decided for the brackets on Saturday. 8/8/16/16? Qualify on Trade St. for Saturday's race downtown - my suggestion.
FLU

Christopher Bara · Post by **Christopher Bara** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:18 pm

that's a good question...Last i read, the qualifying would be jam session, earlier in the day, with your best time being your qualifying time....
Personally, i think that's cool since i've never started off of a ramp before and it'd be nice to get some practice in before the actual race itself (and before there's a thousand people watching me splig off my board!)....also, the brackets could be all drawn up by the time the actual course is set

Just my uneducated two cents

Rick Stanziale · Post by **Rick Stanziale** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:22 am

http://athenstwilight.com/schedule.asp

Gary Fluitt · Post by **Gary Fluitt** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:31 am

Single lane jam format qualifying on Friday along with GS single lane race. Full brackets for all on Saturday. Qualify us off site for the big show, everybody races in a bracket.

Christopher Bara · Post by **Christopher Bara** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:07 am

hows this sound?
You know the town will be packed with people for the bike event.
You want to showcase the race itself, but not necessarily bore people with the qualifying.

I think you mentioned something like this before

Hold the qualifiers at a different site with a similar course earlier in the day or on Saturday (is there anything else happening Saturday?)...jam style, giving everybody up to a predetermined number of runs.

you can even do them dual lane to make it faster if you want, but with the skaters racing against the clock to set their time, as opposed to running against each other.

Everybody gets skate time...you would get some "pairings" you wouldnt normally see

You get the qualifying out of the way before the race

The brackets would be set up before everybody gets to the actual race site

It becomes a full race weekend

Tom Thompson · Post by **Tom Thompson** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 3:28 pm

Rick - I like what gary said. keep it simple. Maybe set a different course course for each (quals and outlaw gs)....to keep it interesting.

When does the sun set in late April? 7-7:30ish? Would ups trucks be a problem if we started earlier on friday?

Eddy Martinez · Post by **Eddy Martinez** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:29 pm

:0 What about us racers that arrive late Friday night due to work restrictions. Just curious. .Last year Marcos and I arrived about 1:00 am in GA. Just curious. Either way this is my third year at Red Clay. Bring on the Mean Bean. Eddy Texas Outlaws.

Frank Henn · Post by **Frank Henn** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:48 pm

Eddy Martinez wrote::0 What about us racers that arrive late Friday night due to work restrictions. Just curious. .Last year Marcos and I arrived about 1:00 am in GA. Just curious. Either way this is my third year at Red Clay. Bring on the Mean Bean. Eddy Texas Outlaws.

We'll still be up drinking in the parking lot to welcome you.

Thank you and marcus for the shirts they rock. I may have to burn the texas outlaw shirt in definace.

Eddy Martinez · Post by **Eddy Martinez** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:58 am

That was too cool puling up to the parking lot and seeing some of the fastest racers in the South all sharing stories. It was about 1:00 AM in the morning, nothing like getting a cold beer handed to you and a hug from your bros. The Cold Fusion Sizzler design was my idea. Came up with it at the last minute. Glad you liked them Frank. Thank you for the Banner. See you soon bro. Eddy Texas Outlaws.

Rick Stanziale · Post by **Rick Stanziale** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:47 pm

Red Clay Cup

Christopher Bara · Post by **Christopher Bara** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:35 pm

Athens sound very El'Fresco six.......

As long as the beer is cold..........the salsa's hot and there's a little eye candy floatin' around....

Pretty impressive sign up....nearly a quarter of the guys registered have won a national title of some sort at one time or another

who'd a thunk it, aye?

Hans Koraeus · Post by **Hans Koraeus** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:46 am

It's the first World Ranking Main status competition of the season.

And Gilmour is back! Yeah!

Let the show begin.

Europe have to wait another 2 weeks for Paris.

Gary Fluitt · Post by **Gary Fluitt** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:16 pm

Gilmore is not scheduled to be done with his final surgery until 2009. This race makes void the warranty on his newly constructed knees and shoulders.

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Rick Stanziale · Post by **Rick Stanziale** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:22 pm

http://athenstwilight.com/schedule.asp

Joe Iacovelli · Post by **Joe Iacovelli** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:19 pm

That sounds smart Rick. We'll run out of daylight before you know it and I know all the new guys are going to really enjoy the hill. They'll want to be screaming the GS, not qualifying.

Why not pull names out of a hat to qualify the elite, totally random and no bellyaching afterwards. I'll be supplying prizes from my sponsor, Oscar Mayer, as you've requested.

Joe

Mike Ohm · Post by **Mike Ohm** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:50 pm

Let me rephrase the question.

Rick, how did you decide who was to be "Elite"?
Was that just a statement. An observance? Or, is it a pre-determined criteria to seed racers.

Tom, can't wait to race you again.

Tom Thompson · Post by **Tom Thompson** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:14 am

i see more than 10....who cares. lets just roll....fast n gnarly, aw yeah.

asking for a super tight tech course on washington st. is probably a waste of time, eh??

Tom Thompson · Post by **Tom Thompson** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:25 am

i see more than 10....who cares. lets just roll....fast n gnarly, aw yeah.

asking for a super tight tech course on washington st. is probably a waste of time, eh??

Christopher Bara · Post by **Christopher Bara** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:54 pm

Hey Mike...Rick posted up...somewhere around one of these forums...that you'd have to declare yourself elite (pro) when you sign up...put's you in with the top racers...and the payout is higher.....and as i recall, you'd have to bring something from a sponsor as a prize, but dont quote me on that part

Rick Stanziale · Post by **Rick Stanziale** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:44 pm

http://athenstwilight.com/schedule.asp

Tom Thompson · Post by **Tom Thompson** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:25 pm

Right back at ya Mike. Looking forward to seeing ya'll. BTW, I wasn't trolling you with that "who cares" remark. I like it when everyone is bracketed together. It gives the dark horses a chance to step up. On the other hand, this race is going to have ALOT of spectators. Close racing is exciting to watch. I'm assuming that weighed heavily into Ricks decision to have an elite class. I'm good with it.

Rick Stanziale · Post by **Rick Stanziale** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:28 pm

http://athenstwilight.com/schedule.asp

Troy Smart · Post by **Troy Smart** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:13 pm

I'm confused.

Is it up to the racer to decide if he wants to race elite or open or is it already decided?

According to previous posts its up to the racer but according to your last one its based on the slalomskateboarder rankings.

Make up your damn mind.

Bitch.

Rick Stanziale · Post by **Rick Stanziale** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:00 pm

Troy Smart wrote:I'm confused.

Is it up to the racer to decide if he wants to race elite or open or is it already decided?

According to previous posts its up to the racer but according to your last one its based on the slalomskateboarder rankings.

Make up your damn mind.

Bitch.

If you are currently ranked as "Pro" according to World Ranking, you will race "Elite" in Athens.

If you are currently ranked as "Open" according to World Ranking, you have the option (at my discretion) to race "Elite".

All "Open" racers choosing to race as "Elite", must do so prior to arriving at the race venue on Friday afternoon.

All "Elite" racers must solicit schwag to hand out to open racers.
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Red Clay Update 4/4/2005

I got insurance (I think).

Visited Trade Street (did not skate, had just sessioned 2 hours at SPOA) - it's a different venue in the spring as opposed to the late summer/early fall conditions we saw this past year. Been some construction at both ends, but they've actually helped clean the place up and the road is unchanged (course still marked in red paint if anyone wants to make the trip). The section of Washington Street we plan to race on this year is steeper than last years course, the asphalt still sucks, and the road has an oh so slight lean to it (not nearly as perceptible as the Morro Bay Tight Slalom 2004).

Confirm a Game Day Condo space NOW - 1 key remains, handed out in order of paid (Paypal - paypal at stanziale dot com) - the rest of you will be staying at Team Clay World Headquarters, approximately 1.5 miles from the downtown venue, or on the floors of Game Day. I'm sorry everyone won't get a bed, rooms are tight during Twilight and I never expected so many people to sign up.

Troy, it's come a long way from the horse barn in a tropical storm, get ready to step skateboard racing up to the next level.

Sunday May 1st - Do some real skateboarding with the locals - Skate Park of Athens

And as long as I'm rambling.....there is no better way to get the Athens experience than to crawl the bars - I highly recommend staying on the west side of downtown and visiting Room XIII, 40 Watt, Manhattan Cafe, Caledonia..........the rest is up to you

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Tom Thompson · Post by **Tom Thompson** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:07 pm

Trade St.....carved and sliced it for a couple of hours this morning....yum yum, mighty tasty! oughta be the main event. wish IT was in downtown Athens....

Troy!

Wesley Tucker · Post by **Wesley Tucker** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:18 pm

OK, not to start any trouble,

I just looked at the Athens Twilight schedule of events. The Red Clay Cup is 1-4 PM. Is that correct? That's THREE HOURS. Is that three hours for everything? Set up, course setting, ramps, and tear down? For some reason I had thought Rick secured the street from 12-5 PM for five hours. Even if there is some major ass busting and both set up and tear down get accomplished in a half hour each, that leaves two hours for racing. I didn't even consider any time for course practice.

Wow.

I hope for 66's sake everyone comes ready to race. I don't think there will be a split second to spare to wait while someone is changing wheels or adjusting a truck. I don't know exactly how this is going to go off, but I hope no one is expecting a casual day at the races.

Rick Stanziale · Post by **Rick Stanziale** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:22 pm

Wesley Tucker wrote:I don't know exactly how this is going to go off, but I hope no one is expecting a casual day at the races.

Practice begins at noon

Course needs to be cleared no later than 5pm

Christopher Bara · Post by **Christopher Bara** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:27 pm

Hey folks....what's the best way from Atlanta Airport to Trade Street at 2:00 on a Friday afternoon, up I-85 thru the city, or I-285, around the horn and connect to I-85 past the city......?

Ricky Byrd · Post by **Ricky Byrd** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:30 pm

We can do this. We ran 50 racers in 3 hours at LSJ 2004.

Get the city to allow a cousre to be set a few days ahead of race day. Be there staging everything on the side of the road that morning, when your cleared to begin move it all 20 feet over and your racing.

Now for something to really worry about...

Is SPOA lit at night?

Rick Stanziale · Post by **Rick Stanziale** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:53 pm

Christopher Bara wrote:Hey folks....what's the best way from Atlanta Airport to Trade Street at 2:00 on a Friday afternoon, up I-85 thru the city, or I-285, around the horn and connect to I-85 past the city......?

Yahoo Maps Driving Directions http://maps.yahoo.com/dd

just type in ATL

& Trade Street, Bogart GA

it's only an hour if you drive over 70mph

here is a map for getting around Athens during the weekend - http://www.68mm.com/beatrice/redclaycupmap05.JPG

Troy Smart · Post by **Troy Smart** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:22 pm

Hey Rick,

It's my birthday on May 1.
I know you're busy, but could you arrange for a cake?

Thanks.

Hint: (chocolate with marshmallow frosting)

Chris Barker · Post by **Chris Barker** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:07 am

Six - What is the latest on qualifying? Those discussions about using World Ranking Points seemed to have disappeared...

Rick Stanziale · Post by **Rick Stanziale** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:22 pm

Twilight Criterium http://www.athenstwilight.com

Noah Heinle · Post by **Noah Heinle** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:16 pm

bracketed based on ranking? where are these rankings?

Marty Schaub · Post by **Marty Schaub** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:47 pm

Whew....

Trying to get from Atlanta airport to Athens on a Friday afternoon is a major pain. You go through downtown (I85), into one of the busiest counties we have (Gwinnett), onto a two lane highway (Hwy 316) choked with commuters that comes complete with traffic lights.

Check out an Atlanta map and see if you can head out of the airport onto Highway 20 and get to Athens. I am not sure that this is a viable alternative or not. I'll watch the local traffic web-site Friday and post the travel time results. I would look at changing your arrival time, no kidding. One wreck on 85, 316 or 20 and your done.....

Good Luck!

Rick Stanziale · Post by **Rick Stanziale** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:15 pm

Noah Heinle wrote:bracketed based on ranking? where are these rankings?

THESE ARE NOT THE FINAL BRACKETS, BUT THIS IS THE FORMULA I'M WORKING WITH

4 year rankings - http://www.slalomranking.com

The Elite Class:

1 Mollica
2 Carrasco
3 Dong
4 Fluitt
5 Hollien
6 Mitchell
7 Barker
8 Mandarino
9 Heinle
10 Popov
11 Gilmour
12 McCree
13 Pirnack

Harms, Goad, Ohm, Smart, Thompson, Plunkett, Byrd, Howard, .....will round out Elite bracket of 16

The Open Bracket:

1-5 Harms, Goad, Ohm, Smart, Thompson, Plunkett, Byrd, Howard
6 Wes E
7 Josh Byrd
8 Jadranko
9 Lynn Kramer
10 Eric Moore
11 Tway
12 Ben Chapman
13 Iacovelli
14 Favero
15 Low J
16 Thrasher
etc. etc.

The top Open seeds will most likely receive early round "byes"

Christopher Bara · Post by **Christopher Bara** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:27 pm

Isnt there a way to get from the Atlanta airport and wrap around the southeast side of atlanta?.......i could have sworn there was another highway.....

Gary Fluitt · Post by **Gary Fluitt** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:30 pm

Just curious how your going to use Harms, Goad, Ohm, Smart, Thompson, Plunkett, Byrd, Howard in both divisions. They either fill the bottom of the Elite or the Top of the Open, but how do they do both?

Gary Fluitt · Post by **Gary Fluitt** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:56 pm

This is what I get from the 4 Year Men USA with the addition of Vlad to the mix, for the Elite Bracket.

1 Kenny Mollica, USA

2 Richy Carrasco, USA

3 Michael Dong, USA

4 Gary Fluitt, USA

5 Keith Hollien, USA

6 Jason Mitchell, USA

7 Chris Barker, USA

8 Vlad

9 Bobby Mandarino, USA

10 Noah Heinle, USA

11 John Gilmour, USA

12 Mark McCree, USA

13 David Pirnack, USA

14 Rick Stanziale, USA

15 Jonathan Harms, USA

16 Jeff Goad, USA

Chris Barker · Post by **Chris Barker** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:31 pm

Why are we qualifying the first big race of 2005 using "points" from 2003 and 2004. In the 4-year ranking, where do 2005 points come from already? I see points for 2003, 2004, and 2005 at that site. Gilmour has been rehabbing. Noah had to take time off last year so his points sufferred. Anyone that ran open in 2003, but "pro" in 2004 gets their 2003 points discounted since they are not "pro" points.

Until someone shows exactly how these magic numbers are computed, they remain mystery numbers to the rest of us and subject to speculation. I've seen my ranking numbers move all over the board as the site has evolved, especially the 2003 numbers.

I'd like to be able to click on any number on the rankings site and have it be able to show me how that number is calculated, eliminating the mystery. Originally there was a big chart that showed which points you picked up at which events. That helped.

Let's qualify based on real times not magic numbers if possible...

If you gave Mollica/Bomber the 1-2 spots, you would have just as fair an ordering if you drew those names out of a hat for the remaining spots. We showed last year that the A class is very close racing. Anyone can be hot for an individual race.

Rick Stanziale · Post by **Rick Stanziale** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:43 pm

Gary Fluitt wrote:Just curious how your going to use Harms, Goad, Ohm, Smart, Thompson, Plunkett, Byrd, Howard in both divisions. They either fill the bottom of the Elite or the Top of the Open, but how do they do both?

they don't do both

Ohm, Smart and Harms would probably round out the top 16

Goad, Thompson, Byrd, Plunkett, Howard, et al would be the "Open" division, probably with the top seeds getting a bye

I just hadn't spoken with all those people to see which division they chose to race in.

It's not set in stone (yet, will be 10 days before race), but I think it will work.

I'm not racing (Saturday....Friday I'm winning).

Wesley Tucker · Post by **Wesley Tucker** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:44 pm

Chris Barker wrote:Why are we qualifying the first big race of 2005 using "points" from 2003 and 2004.

The Luna Slalom Jam in Ridgeland (Jackson), Mississippi is two weeks before The Red Clay Cup.

Rick Stanziale · Post by **Rick Stanziale** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:52 pm

Chris Barker wrote:Why are we qualifying the first big race of 2005 using "points"

because I support the World Rankings (http://www.slalomranking.com)

Chris Barker · Post by **Chris Barker** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:10 pm

Ok, then points from Salem, Luna, Greeley, and next Pumpstation may affect the Red Clay bracketing?

Rick Stanziale · Post by **Rick Stanziale** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:11 pm

Chris Barker wrote:Ok, then points from Salem, Luna, Greeley, and next Pumpstation may affect the Red Clay bracketing?

Yes.

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