NoSchoolz = Great Park AND Slalom Wheel

Vlad Popov · Post by **Vlad Popov** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 3:00 pm

I just remembered. Abec11 65mm NoSchoolz crossed the 2003-WV finish line first. There are no gooder and more fastest wheels for downhill parallel TS! The urethane's superb, and the centerhub makes midtrack width possible with 106 mm RT Trackers and other GS trucks! What a neat idea! Roll, traction and fast transitions! You don't need expensive TS specific trucks to win TS races! All you need is the right TS wheel!

Thanx to Green Eleventeen!

Rick Stanziale · Post by **Rick Stanziale** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:14 pm

I agree, great urethane

perhaps they should start marketing lime green t-shirts that read, "visit 68mm.com"

Jack Quarantillo · Post by **Jack Quarantillo** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 8:51 am

Vlad,
What duro?

Jack

Vlad Popov · Post by **Vlad Popov** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:17 pm

88A is an all around and probably (currently) best Abec11 TS slalom wheel.
92A is good for the front when the pavement is ok and the course is not overly technical.
94A and 96A are pretty much useless on the US asphalt, but are very useful in the park.

66, don't fan the flames. :smilee:

Tod Oles · Post by **Tod Oles** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 2:30 am

Vlad,

Thanks for the review on duros.

Are there any inner wheel conflicts w/65mm NoSkoolz and metal Seismic
hangers?

Thanks, Tod

Hunter Singleton · Post by **Hunter Singleton** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:10 am

I run no schools on my seismic aluminums (on a long board) and they fit like a glove! these wheels are really wide, smooth, and pretty cheap.

Tod Oles · Post by **Tod Oles** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:19 am

Thanks Hunter!!

Vlad Popov · Post by **Vlad Popov** » Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:46 pm

Good news then. I thought they wouldn't fit but haven't tried yet.

Jim Siener · Post by **Jim Siener** » Wed Nov 26, 2003 7:19 pm

Vlad, would you use these wheels for any other kind of race, Hybrid, GS? I would of thought the rounded lip would encourage lots of sliding/less traction. I have a set of 88's I got specifically to learn how to do longboard slides and they work well but never considered using them for slalom. How do you think a centerset wheel is better for slalom other than it makes your hanger width less. Maybe there is something to it that hasn't been much considered.

Vlad Popov · Post by **Vlad Popov** » Wed Nov 26, 2003 8:58 pm

NoSchools is a nice TS wheel because:

1. Centered hub significantly decreases the overall truck setup width. Narrow trucks = quicker transitions.
2. Abec11 urethane, especially in 88A durrometer, is a sweet slalom urethane formula.
3. The wheel has an extended service life because it can be rotated.
4. It has the ideal height
5. As of today, you can still buy NoSchool wheels and get Biltin bearings for free.

Shortcomings:

1. The rounded lips need to go.
2. The contact patch (width) could/should be 5 mm wider for the wheel to shine on special slalom and/or tight hybrid slalom courses.

Personally, I wouldn’t use those wheels in GS, Cyber or Downhill.

Glenn S · Post by **Glenn S** » Thu Nov 27, 2003 5:02 am

I noticed that Michael Dong had some trimmed No Skoolz in his bag of stuff at the Morro Bay FCR race.

I'm prettry sure both outside edges were trimmed off, and it looked similar to this:

I've found that the best way to get a perfectly smooth flat trim is to mount the wheel on a hanger using some junk bearings (because the wheel can get spinning fast). And then put just a small part of the edge of the wheel you want to trim up to the "side" of a metal Bench Grinders wheel. Perfect flat trim and quick, but a little messy. Luckily my bench grinder is not permantenly mounted so I just put it out on the driveway.

Vlad have you been trimming your No Skools too?

Vlad Popov · Post by **Vlad Popov** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 10:37 pm

Yes, they're shaved by Dremel or beltsander.

Chuck Gill · Post by **Chuck Gill** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 6:07 am

A disk sander on an electric drill works pretty okay, too. But you will probably want a dial caliper to make sure you are trimming them evenly at "all 4 corners".

I have been told this time and time again, always wear some sort of mask or respirator when machining urethane. I *didn't* before the Georgia race when i machined a batch of wheels (in too big a hurry to dig out the masks) and while it will take a few decades to determine whether or not I gave myself cancer, I can say that breathing the particles burned real good for a few days.

Gareth Roe · Post by **Gareth Roe** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 5:40 am

Guys-
This is what is left over after we shave our NoSchoolz for TS. Inhaling this stuff would definitely be detrimental to your health.

The grip with these wheels is unbelievable and the range of durometers is a nice plus.
Can't wait for more tight slalom!
Later-
Gareth

Jack Quarantillo · Post by **Jack Quarantillo** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 6:25 am

This seems a little odd to me...

Why don't they make wheels the way we want them?

I'm guessing it's just that the no skoolz are meant to be an "all around" wheel.

But mebbe a "slalom skoolz" wheel would be nice...???

Q

Glenn S · Post by **Glenn S** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:20 am

Gareth,
Can you let us in on exactly how you trim them so perfectly without grinding them down, or is it a team secret

I too would rather not do the bench grinder method with wearing a respirator if yours is attainable without having to spend $ on shop tools that I don't have yet.
THANKS!!

Terry Kirby · Post by **Terry Kirby** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 3:54 am

Gareth ,can you please send me some of those rings. I think there is a market out side slalom for them. TK...just trying to make a living

Brady Mitchell · Post by **Brady Mitchell** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 4:35 am

What are you thinking TK? Some sort of male restrictor plate?

Terry Kirby · Post by **Terry Kirby** » Tue Dec 16, 2003 4:55 am

Actually a childs teething ring. But if youre into that kind of thing I'm sure Gareth would give you one.

Jack Quarantillo · Post by **Jack Quarantillo** » Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:40 am

This thread kinda ran cold...

The other day I wanted to put something smaller than Avalons on my board, and as I don't have a plethora of stuff to choose from, I opted to try some 60mm No Skoolz...

Well, it seems that 60mm No Skoolz and Seismic 105s are incompatable!!!

AARGH!

Luckily, my son was nice enough to loan me his Cambrias...

Q

Vlad Popov · Post by **Vlad Popov** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:21 am

Hunter Singleton wrote:I run no schools on my seismic aluminums (on a long board) and they fit like a glove! these wheels are really wide, smooth, and pretty cheap.

Maybe they only fit on longboard metal Seismics? Although NoShools are the narrowest of all wheels in terms of the contact patch, are not smooth and are not cheap...so maybe they were different wheels?

Glenn S · Post by **Glenn S** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:09 am

I've been told that 65mm NoSkoolz do not fit on the newer 105mm Seismics.

Steve Collins · Post by **Steve Collins** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:16 am

I've got 65mm NoSkoolz with the radii on both sides trimmed off. They will not go onto my 105mm aluminum Seismics. The wheel runs into the hanger.

Fortunately, the trimmed Flashbacks fit on just fine.

Daniel Gesmer · Post by **Daniel Gesmer** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 9:11 am

Wheels with deeply center-set bearings will often not fit onto the Seismic 105mm (7-inch) trucks. The inner wheel lip will often run into the outer wall of the hanger spring chamber.

This is almost never a problem with the Seismic 130mm (8-inch trucks), and never ever a problem with the 155mm (9-inch) and 180mm (10-inch) trucks.

...Dan Gesmer

Steve Collins · Post by **Steve Collins** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 4:24 pm

Right now I'm looking into lipping the inside face of the trimmed NoSkoolz so that they'll fit the 105s.

I've got Gumballs that fit on the 105s so perfectly, it's as if the wheels and trucks were designed specifically for each other. The wheel lip and hanger bevel are mated exactly with the perfect amount of clearance.

Jack Quarantillo · Post by **Jack Quarantillo** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 4:30 pm

Avalons and Cambrias fit like that too on the 105s.

Hand in a glove.

Q

Rich Stephens · Post by **Rich Stephens** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:22 am

I can't belive I'm going to agree with Vlad about something but I just mounted up a pair of 65mm 88a NoSkoolz today and I am VERY impressed. I've got them on a longish-wheelbase pool board right now (deathbox inouye) but good to hear they could double up for slalom as well (whenever I can find some damn hills to go down: fortunately I'm moving back to pacifica soon and finding hills will no longer be a problem).

John Gilmour · Post by **John Gilmour** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:05 am

Bruce Brewington might be your neighbor as he also lives in Pacifica next to the beach- he sets up courses in his condo development.

Rich Stephens · Post by **Rich Stephens** » Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:12 am

Thanks John. When we get up there (end of June) I'll look him up and see if I can tag along.

Cameron Conn · Post by **Cameron Conn** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:38 am

do you have to cut them down?
or can you just leave them as they are and they will have great performance?[/b][/i]

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NoSchoolz = Great Park AND Slalom Wheel

NoSchoolz = Great Park AND Slalom Wheel

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Shaving urethane

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Seismic 105s

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