[2009] Désaxé World Cup, GRENOBLE, June 27-28 [MAIN]

Donald Campbell · Post by **Donald Campbell** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:16 pm

no shit stirring intended

i understand chris and see what he means
i don't think this was meant as an offense and i see no whining either(chris is not the guy to whine!).
his point is just,given the current situation he is right about a few things(my oppinion,which is probably wrong too,again,as ever,who knows)

me,i think you can charge as much as you guys in grenoble do,but.......... then you have to drastically increase the prize money( i am referring to brixlegg f.e.)

you will see things different,that's ok so.

chris:you should have said that earlier though.

everybody have a supernice day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:06 pm

Just to quote myself on a reply I made to Gustavs not turning Pro this season. I would really like to see him race pro and compete with/against him.

Ramón Königshausen wrote:
Gustavs Gailitis wrote: Become a PRO during the season means bigger expenses already this year and pay more than 100 euros for just qualification runs and a t-shirt...

Ditto! Most races are too expensive!

Two weeks ago I paid 60 Euros for a freeride in Belgium. That included Camping, 2x meals per day, shuttle all day long, course marshalls, safety measurements such as haybales and showers.

Amateurs pay 50 Euros and they don't get camping, shuttles, haybales etc. which is a lot of work for organizers. It's very easy to set up a slalom race. I don't understand why all the races have such high entry fee. It doesn't really help to encourage newbes to the sport to participate with such high entry fees.

So also for you Gustavs, it's a matter of money and high entry fee. I bet if the Pros entry fee wasn't so expensive more ("sandbagging") amateurs would turn pro. But if you're a student like Gustavs or I was, you are really happy to even be able to go to an event that's far away. Gustavs is travelling all the way from Latvia only to pay €120 if he wants to race pro.

Just to compare, the Tunnel Slalom we put up cost €30 for Am and €35 for Pro. €10 of which we had to pay to the festival but every participant got a free ticket to use public transport on that day. So in fact the entry fee was only €20 for Am and €25 for Pro.

There was also prize money for women because they also deserve to get prize money.

rmn

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:08 pm

On 10th of June I had already posted a question concerning entry fee. There was no reply until today:

Ramón Königshausen wrote:Just out of curiosity:

Why is it so expensive? (Is there a fee for using the stadium or so?)

And what prizes are there for the women's category?

rmn

rmn

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:15 pm

Jani Soderhall wrote:Chris,

100E has been the norm Pro class in World Cup races since 2003 in Europe.

Why can a norm not be changed in order to make something better? We changed the norm at the Tunnel Race by charging a third (in case of Pro) and offering pretty much all the same things and I think everybody enjoyed the "high profile, high quality event".

rmn

Michel Dupont · Post by **Michel Dupont** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:28 pm

Chris Hart wrote:oh wow.....

why was no bobody comming from France??? (maybe we have to say 100 EUROS starting fee only for the french riders and then you will show up..)

French riders did come to Tunnel race, would have loved to come to BBQ but had to cancel last minute, and are still coming to over 80 cones...

Peter Klang · Post by **Peter Klang** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:48 pm

I just wanna wish all of you lucky bastards who can go to this races the best of luck and have a GREAT time doing what we love. I on the other hand are living a very controlled life mostly involving coaching football. I may comeback…

HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND DUDES AND DUDEDETTS

Gustavs Gailitis · Post by **Gustavs Gailitis** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:01 pm

Well if we compare ''because of the rain'' indoor disciplines - Grenoble last year was with a lot of media and spectators comparing with Gothenburg World championships AM,junior and women tight but still Gothenburg is the best race in slalom history (my opinion) so we can just say that organizers of Grenoble are in high level !

I agree with Donald that if the entry fees are so high in PRO they MUST get big prize money (at least like in Brixlegg) because they really deserve it,but that really is another topic

CU all in Grenoble ! ! !

Flavio Badenes · Post by **Flavio Badenes** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:58 pm

Unfortunately I will not be able to be there.

I am sure this will be a great event like the previous ones.

Keep on doing it, you are doing something for slalom skateboarding, good job! And it only adds more to the sport.

I am tight up, I have a lot of things to do (AND PAY FOR!!!!!

) here in Amsterdam if I want to get things going here as well.

I wish I could be there.

GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU !!!!!

Marcus Seyffarth · Post by **Marcus Seyffarth** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:52 pm

I can't make it, I hope you all DQ.

And if that does not happen I hope that Antonio have the cones on his side (or actually not on his side, but I guess you know what I'm trying to say) and make it all the way to the top. Go team 161!

Robert Gaisek · Post by **Robert Gaisek** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:15 pm

Watch out for Viking......he´s on his way!
GO GOTHENBURG!

Vincent Berruchon · Post by **Vincent Berruchon** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:45 pm

So finally who's in?
I'll probably be alone in my double room in Ibis hotel in centre of Grenoble
so if someone interested it's quite cheap (less than 40€ for the double - it's a special price) - contact me (cell: +33 6 60 75 17 32)

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:42 pm

Hey Vinzzz,

If it rains, Dominik, Christoph, Dasha and I would like to crash on your floor. We'll give you €5 each.

Deal?

rmn

Antonio Saluena · Post by **Antonio Saluena** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:13 pm

They say it's gonna rain tomorrow, where and when do we meet...

Robert Gaisek · Post by **Robert Gaisek** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:43 pm

CONGRATS TO MIKA!!!

Gints Gailitis · Post by **Gints Gailitis** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:52 pm

Congratis to Janis (1 Pro), Gustavs (1 Am), Lienite (2 Lady) today!!!

www.skateboardinfo.lv

Maria Carrasco · Post by **Maria Carrasco** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:29 pm

Congrats to all the winners! Great job by Janis so soon after knee surgery too -- Oi!

Wish we could be there but maybe next year.

Cheers to all our friends!

Antonio Saluena · Post by **Antonio Saluena** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:10 pm

Thank you all for a great weekend! Superfreindly and well organised!
Pierre and the French crew did everything perfect!
A lot of skaters improved, The spanish team-wow, since Paris last year, very good!
Michel and Christopher Dupont, both great!
The Hadestrand family, impressive!!! Mika won Pro overall, and Viking 2:ond place in special!
Gustavs better than ever, too bad you fall in GS, you won everything else!
I'll be back next year for sure!

love
Antonio

Antonio Saluena · Post by **Antonio Saluena** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:12 pm

I forgot, please post pictures!!!

Ricardo Damborenea · Post by **Ricardo Damborenea** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:34 pm

Yes we had a great time! It was hot in and off the competition (veeeryy hoottt)!
On top, we put 3 spanish riders at each final + a spanish guy beat Dominik Kowalski & another beat Christopher Baumman at the Nations Cup! The high point of their skating careers!

(we finally lost 5-2

).

Also & personally, making #4 in straight @ 46 quite a boost to self steem.

Good organization and good fun!

Also waiting anxiously for the photos and classifications!

Flavio Badenes · Post by **Flavio Badenes** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:27 pm

Ricardo Damborenea wrote:Also & personally, making #4 in straight @ 46 quite a boost to self steem.

Mui bien Ricardo!

Saludos!

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:29 pm

Antonio Saluena wrote:I forgot, please post pictures!!!

Like this one?

/Jani

Antonio Saluena · Post by **Antonio Saluena** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:53 pm

YYIIHAAAA!

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:12 am

Jani, will you upload a selection to an online gallery?

I saw you were documenting a lot the past weekend!

rmn

Pierre Samray · Post by **Pierre Samray** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:02 am

Such a tiring week-end. So hard when the meteo play with us!

But finally we do it.

Thanks to all the racers who were there, thanks to Philippe and his fantastic crew. Js, Jani and Corky. All the cones marshall under the rain or the sun.
Congrat to Ramon, Mika, Janis the pro winner of the Sweek-end. Sandrine, Gustav and the young spanish guy who win their categories. Level is growing years after years, new nations we have to count in as Spania

Here are the result of the nations cup which conclude this race's week-end. Interesting moment where am can meet pro.

1 Germany
2 France
3 Sweden and Latvia

Quart finale
Sweden vs Italia : Hadestrand family beat Digiorgio family by 5/0
France vs Czech : So close dual but France win 5/0
Spain vs Germany : Christophmake a false start and fell off the ramp. Still Germany won with 5/2
Switzerland vs Latvia : A piece of Swiss team without Manuel Frei (hurt) and Ramon who turn on his German side, couldn't resist against Janis, Gustav and Leinite. Latvia won 5/2

Semi finale
Sweden vs France : It's seems impossible for France but the Duponds and Berruchon has the last word against the Hadestrands. Christopher beat Viktor for 0,01 on the last point!!
5/4

Germany vs latvia : Leinite is one of the fastest women but what can she does against Ramon, Dominik and Christof? Janis take 2 points but Germany win 5/2

Final
Germany vs France : No mercy from Germany who won the nations cup 5/0.

I stop with slalom 3 years ago and was back this week-end and I'm afraid it's like a drug.
Anyway Philippe Galindo can count me to help him again next year.

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:30 am

Donald in another topic wrote:i heard the name 3 times today 3 complaints and the rant goes on.

Grenoble sucks!
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Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:07 pm

Overall results (pdf):

http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/event ... ll2009.pdf

Timekeeping: Jean-Sebastien Dennebouy
Overall results compiled by: Hans "Corky" Koraeus
Timer: Trackmate 6.8 (random start in the finals)
Equipment provided by: Riderz and ConeRacing.com
Spreadsheets: Seismic Skateboards
ExcelMate software: EttSexEtt Skateboards

Robert Gaisek · Post by **Robert Gaisek** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:34 pm

Congrats to my fellow Goth´s!

1 and 4 pro overall.

2 and 9 am overall.

Great job!

Pierre Samray · Post by **Pierre Samray** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:39 pm

Jani have you all the results?

Dasha Kornienko · Post by **Dasha Kornienko** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:22 am

What a fun weekend!! I was a bit worried when I heard it was on flat, but I have no complaints because there was so much good racing and all around good times! It was such a pleasure to have 5 other women competing and to be able to have an actual womens category. I learned a lot and will never forget the experience.

Thank you to all who organized and volunteered their time!

The highlight for me: watching Christoph, Dominik and Ramón win the nations cup... oh and hearing the announcer say "quelle disastre! quelle tristesse!" after my run (because it meant that I won).

Is there any video of the event out there?

Jani Soderhall wrote:Like this one?

Got any more like this Jani? *hint hint*

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:52 am

Okay I'd like to say some things about the past weekend. Good points first!

+ First of all I really enjoyed the real downhill GS although I heard that the hill/course was a bit too hard for some. Too hard meaning a bit rough, maybe too much wind (well we can only blame the weather gods for that). But it was good after Pierre and Domink changed it and made it a bit shorter.

+ The food was really good. A good meal included in the entry fee is nice to have but maybe make it optional next time for people who want to be low budget.

+ Unfortunately for some pros they weren't able to eat during lunch time because they had to race and when the race was over the lunch was too. However we were still able to get a sandwich and a BEER!

+ The organization was pretty smooth and I think this is also due to the fact that there were more events other than slalom skateboarding involved.

+/- The special was a nice course. The straight...well I was using my GS board...but you all know my opinion here. Plus yeah, it was on flat...

- What was a bummer for the Ladies and Amateurs was that there was only one GS run for them. But this we can also kind of blame on the weather gods because I reckon the road had to be opened to traffic at a certain point.

- Prize money distribution: Should have been announced more clearly, if overall or per discipline.

- Prize money amount: Maybe a statement is necessary here. I personally think the amounts for the top 4 were okay but maybe places down to 8th place could have gotten some too.

so far so good.

rmn

Pierre Samray · Post by **Pierre Samray** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:27 am

Hey Dasha. Even if I'm french I was strike but what says William the speaker when you win!

I think at this moment, only his heard speak. A little bit chauvinistic for sure... I've expected nobody hear but you do

. Yes France against Germany was a disaster for us

but what can we do!! Congrat the too strong German team

Thanks Ramon for your analyse. I'm agree with you on most all the point. Yes difficult to put a giant when it's still raining and when the wind arrive and change everything (I'm sure with a back wind we can add 200 hundreds meters). Thank to Dominik who help me to change some gates (unfortunatly I have no time to test my own slalom before the race!!!).

About price money : There were only 12 pros. Things were different with 20 for sure.
About entryfees : Can propose optional food.

Agree about missing informations. Grenoble is a very special race with a big staff but without a true race head. Philippe is looking after the complete event and meet the politics he is an hollow man during all the week-end. In fact : Jani, JS and me come to help Philippe in the organisation but we are not working on it before the event that can explain, there is no real chief and no precise schedule and approximativ informations. We have to work on this point.
Flat race : Mmmh..as soon as we do it on the stadium, there is no solutions..Let say Grenoble is and will be the only race on flat
About straight : I'm not closed...May be things change in the future...

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:13 am

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Giant slalom:

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Fernando Pastor · Post by **Fernando Pastor** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:09 am

GUAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU ¡¡¡¡

Thanks Jani, amazing photos¡¡¡¡¡ My first Desaxé and I can´t forget it ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡

Agggg ¡¡¡¡¡ Unforgettable ¡¡¡¡¡

Fun, professional, spectacular, friendly, hard and really fast¡¡¡¡

Thanks to everybody, the staff, riders (PROS&AM), and specially to Petr Novotny because he took me in his car and I could ride the FANTASTIC GIANT ¡¡¡¡¡

And thanks to Germany SUPER team, they were very pious in the nations Cup ¡¡¡ Really fun and Unforgettable ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡

I have a lot of photos and videos, will try post soon ¡¡¡¡¡¡

Sergio Fernandez · Post by **Sergio Fernandez** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:27 pm

It was my first time in a world cup slalom and I think it isn't the last one.

I got a lot of fun in competition and giant was incredible.

Sandrine Saint-Criq · Post by **Sandrine Saint-Criq** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:49 pm

Hi Jani,
there is a mistake about the woman overall.

Erika did the GS too, so she should have 80 points like the other who made DQ.
She's tide with Dasha at the over all but Dasha made better place at the special so Dasha's 3rd and Erika's 4th.

Thanks to Philippe, all the volunteers and everyone for that wonderful week end.
It's always a pleasure too see everyone and meet new slalom skateboarder like Dasha, Arnaud, Fabian, ....

Hope too see all of you next year in Grenoble.

PS: Jani, have you got some more pictures???

Flavio Badenes · Post by **Flavio Badenes** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:28 pm

Sandrine A MELHOR!!!!!

Sandrine Saint-Criq · Post by **Sandrine Saint-Criq** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:48 pm

Muito obrigado Flavio !!!!

Vincent Langlade · Post by **Vincent Langlade** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:10 pm

More than 100 photos from Grenoble … are you here?

http://picasaweb.google.com/VeehheL/Gre ... rldCup2009#

Gustavs Gailitis · Post by **Gustavs Gailitis** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:49 pm

Congratulations to all the medalists!!!

Thanks to all the organizers (Pierre, Philippe, Corky, Jani, Jean-Seb etc.), volunteers, sponsors and participants!

It is nice that amateur division does its function – top4 amateur overall were under 20!!!

I hope that Frei will be soon back on track after his crash (3 weeks with no sport? – he don’t looks like a guy who can stay still for even a second

)

Great that Canada was also represented

It was worth to come from Riga via Brussels via Lyon and then by bus to Grenoble – I was there for 3rd time in a row and I surely wouldn’t mind to come again next year

!

CU all in Policka!

PS – very nice pics! Anyone else ?

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:19 pm

Sandrine Ferreira wrote:There is a mistake about the woman overall:
Erika did the GS too, so she should have 80 points like the other who made DQ.
She's tied with Dasha at the over all but Dasha made better place at the special so Dasha's 3rd and Erika's 4th.

Thanks, we're looking into that at the moment. There are also a few other corrections to be done.

Sandrine Ferreira wrote:PS: Jani, have you got some more pictures???

Yes.

/Jani

Guillaume Saint-Criq · Post by **Guillaume Saint-Criq** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:27 pm

super nice WE for us too!
We were really happy to see you all again (or for the first time) in Grenoble.
Thanks for those who made it possible!

We finally ran this giant race... it was fun, but next year, i will ask for a second run and back wind

Pro races were really close and interesting. Congrats to all, but especially to the Gothenburg team!

Congrats to my team mates who ruled their own categories ... Gustav in amateur div & Sandrine in women
Christopher and Janis did also great races!
viva ConeRacing!

I think Nation cup, with "First to the finishline" format, was also really a great time for audience.

I agree with all Ramon's inputs and i'am really happy to heard so enthousiast feedback about the race.
I hope it will happen again next year with many improvements.

See you soon,

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:30 pm

Top finishers, list provided by Jean-Sebastien Dennebouy:

Slalom Géant Pro :
1- Ramon Königshausen (Suisse)
2- Danhel Dalibor (Rep Tchèque)
3- Dominik Kowalski (Allemagne)

Slalom Géant AM :
1- Viktor Hadestrand (Suede)
2- Petr Janoušek (Rep Tchèque)
3- Christopher Dupont (France)

Slalom Géant Girls :
1- Sandrine Ferreira (France)
2 ex aequo - Lienite Skaranine (Lettonie), Dasha Kornienko (Canda), Eglantine Balland (France), Erika Schoirfer (France)

Special Slalom AM :
1- Gustav Gailitis (Lettonie)
2- Petr Novotny (Rep Tchèque)
3- Fabian Koula (Suisse)

Special Slalom Girls :
1- Sandrine Ferreira (France)
2- Lienite Skaranine (Lettonie)
3- Dasha Kornienko (Canda)

Special Slalom Jr :
1- Daniel Navarro Fernandez (Espagne)
2- Zaccaria Di Giorgio (Italie)

Tight Slalom Pro :
1- Mika Hadestrand (Suede)
2- Janis Kuzmins (Lettonie)
3- Ramon Königshausen (Suisse)

Tight Slalom AM :
1- Gustav Gailitis (Lettonie)
2- Fabian Koula (Suisse)
3- Viktor Hadestrand (Suede)

Tight Slalom Girls :
1- Sandrine Ferreira (France)
2- Lienite Skaranine (Lettonie)
3- Erika Schoirfer (France)

Tight Slalom Jr :
1- Daniel Navarro Fernandez (Espagne)
2- Zaccaria Di Giorgio (Italie)
3- Louis Casano (France)

Coupe des nations :
1- Allemagne
2- France

/Jani

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:47 pm

Sandrine Ferreira wrote:There is a mistake about the woman overall.

Erika did the GS too, so she should have 80 points like the other who made DQ.
She's tied with Dasha at the over all but Dasha made better place at the special so Dasha's 3rd and Erika's 4th.

The overall results (pdf) have been updated, see link above.

We have also given 16 points (for a DQ) in AM class to Daniel. He was only registered in JUN class at the time of the GS, but we modified that later in the day to allow him full participation in both JUN and AM class, like we had it last year.

/Jani

Ricardo Damborenea · Post by **Ricardo Damborenea** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:06 pm

If you could also post the detailed timesheets it'll be great!

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:37 pm

Ricardo Damborenea wrote:If you could also post the detailed timesheets it'll be great!

Jean-Sebastien has the full set and will do it, but he doesn't have access to internet for a few days more. Vacation!

/Jani

Dasha Kornienko · Post by **Dasha Kornienko** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:12 pm

Are there no more photos?

Jani Soderhall wrote:The overall results (pdf) have been updated, see link above.

Good to see that the mistake in the Womens results has been rectified! I was confused about the results of the GS also...

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:44 pm

Here's some more pictures, but many of these are poor quality due to the poor light in the evening.

Dasha, there will be more interesting photos in the next round.

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Straight slalom:

Janis Kuzmins, LAT

Mikael Hadestrand, SWE, winner Pro class.

Viktor Hadestrand, SWE, notice the front wheel lifting!

AM Final, 1st run Gustavs Gailitis, LAT vs Fabian Koula, SUI

AM Final, 2nd run Fabian Koula, SUI against Gustavs Gailitis, LAT.
Final results: Gustavs 1st, Fabian 2nd.

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/Jani

Manuel Frei · Post by **Manuel Frei** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:04 am

thanks for the really cool race and all the cools pics

i hope that i coud ride next year not just one race:-) see you in amsterdam or some where else

Jean-Sébastien Dennebouy · Post by **Jean-Sébastien Dennebouy** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:04 pm

Thanks everybody who came !
Many thanks to Jani, Corky and Pierre for the organization of the race.

The complete results (25 pages) in PDF can be downloaded here :

Slalom-Etape_3-Grenoble_2009-ISSA.pdf

And soon, pictures of the race on the CND Gallery : http://www.descente.fr/index.php?option ... &Itemid=70

Franco Di Giorgio · Post by **Franco Di Giorgio** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:45 pm

hello guys!
I tried to combine small movies of the giant race
Thanks Franco
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX-Mg8COkXo
P.S
soon there will be a part two giant

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[2009] Désaxé World Cup, GRENOBLE, June 27-28 [MAIN]

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Janis, Gustavs, Lienite

Congrats to Janis!

wow

Photos

Re: Photos

yihaa

Dasha wants to see some pictures

Re: Photos

Grenoble photos: Giant slalom

Re: Grenoble photos: Giant slalom

Thanks for the picts

Grenoble photos: Straight slalom

video desaxè 2009