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NEWS :
Amateur : the winner of the ALLOVER competition will win a 1-week stay all
inclusive in his/her chosen UCPA centre (sport holidays centre) in France
(voucher is valid for 1 year). Value : 600 to 800 Euro.
Women: if there are over 10 participants, the winner of the ALLOVER
competition will win a 1-week stay all inclusive in her chosen UCPA centre
(sport holidays centre) in France (voucher is valid for 1 year). Value : 600
to 800 Euro.
If there are less than 10 women, the prize will be offered to the winner of
the Men ALLOVER PRO competition.
Amateur : the winner of the ALLOVER competition will win a 1-week stay all
inclusive in his/her chosen UCPA centre (sport holidays centre) in France
(voucher is valid for 1 year). Value : 600 to 800 Euro.
Women: if there are over 10 participants, the winner of the ALLOVER
competition will win a 1-week stay all inclusive in her chosen UCPA centre
(sport holidays centre) in France (voucher is valid for 1 year). Value : 600
to 800 Euro.
If there are less than 10 women, the prize will be offered to the winner of
the Men ALLOVER PRO competition.
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We were just:Vincent Berruchon wrote:NEWS :
Women: if there are over 10 participants, the winner of the ALLOVER
competition will win a 1-week stay all inclusive in her chosen UCPA centre
(sport holidays centre) in France (voucher is valid for 1 year). Value : 600
to 800 Euro.
If there are less than 10 women, the prize will be offered to the winner of
the Men ALLOVER PRO competition.
- 4 women in Paris (registration free),
- 2 women in Policka,
- 4 women at the European Championship in Amsterdam (registration free) ....
- there were just more than 10 women at the World in Gothenburg, including USA racers.... And they given prize money for the first of 3, if we were more than 8 women.
So:
How could we be more than 10 in Grenoble !!!!!!
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From last years thread:Stefano Bellingeri wrote:can you give us an advice concerning an hostel where to sleep in Grenoble?
/JaniThe cheapest solution is Youth hostel :
room of 4 (with bathroom & WC)
OR
room of 6/8 (Common bathroom & WC, not in the room)
17,20 € night + breakfast included !!!!!!!!
You will not find anything cheaper
Auberge de jeunesse-Youth hostel, Tel : + 33 (0) 4 76 09 33 52, E-mail : grenoble@fuaj.org
http://www.fuaj.net/homepage/ajgrenoble/
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there is also a list of hotel, but the cheaper one will be 54 EUR for a room for 2
(Hotel Gallia, Tel : + 33 (0) 4 76 87 39 21, E-mail : gallia-hotel@wanadoo.fr)
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Hello Rider!!!
New information of September 05th, on Saturday evening, after of the finale PRO and for to finish the day on a musical atmosphere,
concert of 40 BATTEURS, it is a very good group in region Rhône-Alpes
For those riders not registered yet, *there are 15 places only*, _/*do not delay*/!_ *The weather report seems excellent!!!*
This year, the event is more adapted to his expectations, more activities, more entertainments, more slope!!! Good prize!!! Status **Main**!!!*
Remember, Les spots of competitions:
***Seyssins: Also in one of the biggest streets of the city, the bitumen is new, for 700 meters giant slalom
(500 meters of Running) with a 10 to 13% slope, for the Saturday Morning race.
***Grenoble**’s Olympic Stadium*: the main site is in the Grenoble city downtown, in a municipal garden, with the mountains outlook …
It’s the Olympic Stadium of 1968 Olympic Games. The excellent bitumen track is 400 meters long, with a 3000 spectator’s bench.
Food and drink on the spot. Saturday evening tight finals will be nocturnal.
* Grenoble is near Switzerland, Italia, and at 3 hours from Paris in train.
* Airports: Grenoble Saint Geoirs at 35 minutes, Lyon Saint-Exupéry at 45 minutes and Geneva at 1h20.
* There are a lot of hotels near the spots, and we will have special prices for riders
* All the information on the web site: *www.desaxe-skateslalom.com*
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Hi riders, good news for the car-less ones or public transportation's allergic. There will be a shuttle only for riders to attend the giant spot in Seyssin !
Departure 7:30 in the morning, at the tight and special spot, the speed ring.
See you all soon !
Departure 7:30 in the morning, at the tight and special spot, the speed ring.
See you all soon !
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For consideration
Hello all,
2 more days and then it's happening! I hope you are all in good shape and looking forward to skating and competing.
Just wanted to tell you, that when there was the sanction application for this event, we (Dom, Peter, me) more or less knew what this event is all about. We were very pleased to see that the GS was gonna be on another venue than last year. We knew about the potential of this event, even though 2 out of 3 races are gonna be held in the flat. That's not bad since there are very good facilities like the stand for the spectators, the remarkably good surface or the experience of the organizers.
So what we intended is to sanction you a Main Status even though 2/3 of the races are on flat but expected that the courses would be set accurately according to the venue.
We all know that it's not a big deal. We gave you the Status with all the best intentions and confidence that it will be a good event.
I hope that we can be taken serious and respected for doing our job and we would like to do it for 2009 as well because we think we did a good job and we did it with pleasure.
thanks and see you at the venue!
rmn
Hello all,
2 more days and then it's happening! I hope you are all in good shape and looking forward to skating and competing.
Just wanted to tell you, that when there was the sanction application for this event, we (Dom, Peter, me) more or less knew what this event is all about. We were very pleased to see that the GS was gonna be on another venue than last year. We knew about the potential of this event, even though 2 out of 3 races are gonna be held in the flat. That's not bad since there are very good facilities like the stand for the spectators, the remarkably good surface or the experience of the organizers.
So what we intended is to sanction you a Main Status even though 2/3 of the races are on flat but expected that the courses would be set accurately according to the venue.
We all know that it's not a big deal. We gave you the Status with all the best intentions and confidence that it will be a good event.
I hope that we can be taken serious and respected for doing our job and we would like to do it for 2009 as well because we think we did a good job and we did it with pleasure.
thanks and see you at the venue!
rmn
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The producers of this event have gone to alot of trouble to make a nice event today. They have everything set up. Too bad about the rain. At 1 pm today we meet at the spot and get a ride over to where the indoors location will be. I am impressed so far as to the level of organization, and effort put in to this contest. Mother Nature does what she will.
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Grenoble World Cup 2008 - Results - Straight slalom
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Saturday - Tight slalom
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Grenoble had probably the best indoor backup venue so far. An enormous indoor market kind of hall. Probably 8 meters to the the semi transparent glass ceiling.
The organizers went through the effort of setting up a complete setup (barriers, big sound system, ramps, tables etc.
The racing got started kind of late, after everyone had had lunch (best race food so far!).
The high ligths of the day was the pro final, but also the am finals, and some of the races leading up to those two. There was some really interesting racing, and the competition was really fierce in the absolute top.
Robert Thiele was kind of unbeatable, but Michel Dupont was less than a cone away once the two final races had been added together. One cone less and the advantage would have turned to Michel. The Pro class will get new participants next season! Well, maybe three new: Gustavs took third this time.
Ramon was unbeatable too, but it very much looked like Janis was going to win the race for awhile. Janis is renewing his knee surgery in a few weeks and probably shouldn't be skating right now, but we're all pleased to see he does, because he always gives 100% when he's on his board. Pure power. Ramon had to take off his t-shirt and bib number to shave off 100's or 1000's to beat Janis. And it worked! Congratulations Ramon. Vincent Berruchon took third taking out Manuel Frei in the consolation round.
The race finished at 9.30 pm. it was a long day.
The cool thing was that the food crew was ready once again, with yet another meal for all the racers and we had a friendly get together in a large tent chatting about the day and all the wonderful things we could do to improve the sport, while the rain was sizzling down all around us.
Now we're back in the hotel and very much looking forward to a good night sleep.
Oh, I didn't mention that Team ConeRacing took home two gold medal this time: Sandrine Ferreira won the women's ahead of Joyce Wheldrake, and Christopher Dupont won the Juniors.
Here's the whole lot:
Women:
1 Sandrine Ferreira
2 Joyce Wheldrake
3 Lucile Crozet
4 Irene Di Giorgio
Juniors:
1 Christopher Dupont 14,399
2 Zaccaria Di Giorgio 18,901
3 Robin Birrer 22,147
4 Irene Di Giorgio 26,073
5 Alex Berthou DQ
Am:
1 Thiele Robert 13,115
2 Michel Dupont 13,160
3 Gailitis Gustavs 13,718
4 Jadranko Radovanovic 13,686
5 Vincent Langlade 13,936
6 Sam Gordon 13,960
7 Guillaume Saint-criq 14,455
8 Hervé Berthou 14,909
9 Petr Novotny 13,860
10 Christopher Dupont 14,456
11 Holger Kindler 14,590
12 Jean Sebastian Dennebouy 14,760
13 Jean Michel Casano 15,184
14 Ricardo Damborenea 15,806
15 Pablo Ballester 16,181
16 Nicolas Dmytruk 16,452
17 Guilhem Depierre 16,777
18 Jean Sebastian Delattre 18,357
19 William Renan 18,400
20 Arnaud Tisserand 19,139
21 Franco Di Giorgio 22,608
22 Adrien Nassieye DQ
Pro:
1 Ramon Königshausen 12,264
2 Janis Kuzmins 12,418
3 Vincent Berruchon 12,645
4 Manuel Frei 13,356
5 Chris Hart 13,363
6 Paul Price 13,912
7 Stefano Bellingeri 14,542
8 Pierre Samray 16,245
/Jani & Corky
Saturday - Tight slalom
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Grenoble had probably the best indoor backup venue so far. An enormous indoor market kind of hall. Probably 8 meters to the the semi transparent glass ceiling.
The organizers went through the effort of setting up a complete setup (barriers, big sound system, ramps, tables etc.
The racing got started kind of late, after everyone had had lunch (best race food so far!).
The high ligths of the day was the pro final, but also the am finals, and some of the races leading up to those two. There was some really interesting racing, and the competition was really fierce in the absolute top.
Robert Thiele was kind of unbeatable, but Michel Dupont was less than a cone away once the two final races had been added together. One cone less and the advantage would have turned to Michel. The Pro class will get new participants next season! Well, maybe three new: Gustavs took third this time.
Ramon was unbeatable too, but it very much looked like Janis was going to win the race for awhile. Janis is renewing his knee surgery in a few weeks and probably shouldn't be skating right now, but we're all pleased to see he does, because he always gives 100% when he's on his board. Pure power. Ramon had to take off his t-shirt and bib number to shave off 100's or 1000's to beat Janis. And it worked! Congratulations Ramon. Vincent Berruchon took third taking out Manuel Frei in the consolation round.
The race finished at 9.30 pm. it was a long day.
The cool thing was that the food crew was ready once again, with yet another meal for all the racers and we had a friendly get together in a large tent chatting about the day and all the wonderful things we could do to improve the sport, while the rain was sizzling down all around us.
Now we're back in the hotel and very much looking forward to a good night sleep.
Oh, I didn't mention that Team ConeRacing took home two gold medal this time: Sandrine Ferreira won the women's ahead of Joyce Wheldrake, and Christopher Dupont won the Juniors.
Here's the whole lot:
Women:
1 Sandrine Ferreira
2 Joyce Wheldrake
3 Lucile Crozet
4 Irene Di Giorgio
Juniors:
1 Christopher Dupont 14,399
2 Zaccaria Di Giorgio 18,901
3 Robin Birrer 22,147
4 Irene Di Giorgio 26,073
5 Alex Berthou DQ
Am:
1 Thiele Robert 13,115
2 Michel Dupont 13,160
3 Gailitis Gustavs 13,718
4 Jadranko Radovanovic 13,686
5 Vincent Langlade 13,936
6 Sam Gordon 13,960
7 Guillaume Saint-criq 14,455
8 Hervé Berthou 14,909
9 Petr Novotny 13,860
10 Christopher Dupont 14,456
11 Holger Kindler 14,590
12 Jean Sebastian Dennebouy 14,760
13 Jean Michel Casano 15,184
14 Ricardo Damborenea 15,806
15 Pablo Ballester 16,181
16 Nicolas Dmytruk 16,452
17 Guilhem Depierre 16,777
18 Jean Sebastian Delattre 18,357
19 William Renan 18,400
20 Arnaud Tisserand 19,139
21 Franco Di Giorgio 22,608
22 Adrien Nassieye DQ
Pro:
1 Ramon Königshausen 12,264
2 Janis Kuzmins 12,418
3 Vincent Berruchon 12,645
4 Manuel Frei 13,356
5 Chris Hart 13,363
6 Paul Price 13,912
7 Stefano Bellingeri 14,542
8 Pierre Samray 16,245
/Jani & Corky
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Well, sharing a room with Mr Results (ie Corky) you don't get to sleep when you want to, so here are the PDFs:
Straight Pro
Straight Am
Straight Women
Straight Juniors
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Straight Pro
Straight Am
Straight Women
Straight Juniors
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Rumor or not ?
Today Janis Kuzmins win World cup in Grenoble in Pro group and
Gustavs Gailitis win World cup in Am group.
Congratulations from me and from Latvia Skateboard Federation!
www.skateboardinfo.lv
Gustavs Gailitis win World cup in Am group.
Congratulations from me and from Latvia Skateboard Federation!
www.skateboardinfo.lv
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COLD but so GOOD!!!
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Merci à tous pour ce super événement!!!
Et un grand grand grand chapeau au(x) cuisto(s) , on a vraiment mangé comme des rois
Niko
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Merci à tous pour ce super événement!!!
Et un grand grand grand chapeau au(x) cuisto(s) , on a vraiment mangé comme des rois
Niko
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Results Grenoble - Special slalom
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Sunday - Special slalom
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Special Pro Qual
Special Am Qual
Special Women Qual
Special Jun Qual
Special Pro Finals
Special Am Finals
Special Women Finals
Special Jun Finals
Overall (combination) Results
(Note that for overall - when there's a tie, who ever won the last event of the weekend was used as a tie breaker).
Results handling by Corky.
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Sunday - Special slalom
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Special Pro Qual
Special Am Qual
Special Women Qual
Special Jun Qual
Special Pro Finals
Special Am Finals
Special Women Finals
Special Jun Finals
Overall (combination) Results
(Note that for overall - when there's a tie, who ever won the last event of the weekend was used as a tie breaker).
Results handling by Corky.
/Jani & Corky
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Grenoble pictures
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A very well organised event despite the English weather, and some of the best race food ever tasted. Thanks Desaxe and the Grenoble organising crew.
No thanks to those who keep beating me. You know who you are.
Sam
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A very well organised event despite the English weather, and some of the best race food ever tasted. Thanks Desaxe and the Grenoble organising crew.
No thanks to those who keep beating me. You know who you are.
Sam
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Re: Results Grenoble - Special slalom
http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/events/2008/Grenoble/Overall.pdfJani Soderhall wrote: Overall (combination) Results
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and http://www.longboard.ch/calendrier_viewevent.php?id=263
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Thanks to the Désaxé crew for making such a great event.
One time again this year, Grenoble was one of the best organized event, and deserve the status!
Unfortunatly we can not make the giant, which should have been for sure the fastest of this season.
Congrats to all the winners and to all who attend this race.
Thank you all for coming, Sandrine and I are looking forward racing 2009...
One time again this year, Grenoble was one of the best organized event, and deserve the status!
Unfortunatly we can not make the giant, which should have been for sure the fastest of this season.
Congrats to all the winners and to all who attend this race.
Thank you all for coming, Sandrine and I are looking forward racing 2009...
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Who does counted the points for the overall ??? Was he drunk ???
How can you give me -100 points![;-)](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
Thanks a lot for the organisation of this competition. I bet with some luck with the weater and some more rider's it would been one of the best competitions of this year. I shame on me that i have to leave on saturday evening. Hope to can come next year again. I will bring some suneshine for shure...
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How can you give me -100 points
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Thanks a lot for the organisation of this competition. I bet with some luck with the weater and some more rider's it would been one of the best competitions of this year. I shame on me that i have to leave on saturday evening. Hope to can come next year again. I will bring some suneshine for shure...
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Great event in Grenoble. Organization was of a professional level like we'd like to see more often.
Despite the bad weather, everything worked well - we can only regret the cancellation of the Giant on a really promising spot because of the rain - but mother nature decide and we cannot change that anyway.
At least the the indoor spot was really good and particulary long. Probably the best "plan b" spot we never saw.
Good event including flatland definitely worth it in these conditions - but of course not too often on flat - it should stay an exception
The real deceiving thing is that many more riders were expected. It's really sad if polemics and negative buzz discourage some of them!
Despite the bad weather, everything worked well - we can only regret the cancellation of the Giant on a really promising spot because of the rain - but mother nature decide and we cannot change that anyway.
At least the the indoor spot was really good and particulary long. Probably the best "plan b" spot we never saw.
Good event including flatland definitely worth it in these conditions - but of course not too often on flat - it should stay an exception
The real deceiving thing is that many more riders were expected. It's really sad if polemics and negative buzz discourage some of them!
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Philippe Galindo and is crew show this years again that they are professional in event organisation (12 years organizing snowboard events). The weather should destroy all their work. It's a pity for the giant we must cancel. I think for Jani, Hans, JS and me, it's a pleasure to work for this event where we have nothing to do except looking after the race.
Thanks to all the riders who was present, pity for those who finaly renonce.
Grenoble really a great slalom skate event even under the rain!
Now one bad thing arrive on this race. I think we have to considerate the attitude of one racer.
Somebody in the public receive a cone with a lot of violence and another one just fall near the pc course. In praticly all the sport this bad attitude certainly disqualify the racer. Because of the surprise effect nothing arrive. But we can imagine what happen if a child receive this cone in his face. No sanctions, no excuses, nothing to anquiet the racer.... This must never happen again!
Thanks to all the riders who was present, pity for those who finaly renonce.
Grenoble really a great slalom skate event even under the rain!
Now one bad thing arrive on this race. I think we have to considerate the attitude of one racer.
Somebody in the public receive a cone with a lot of violence and another one just fall near the pc course. In praticly all the sport this bad attitude certainly disqualify the racer. Because of the surprise effect nothing arrive. But we can imagine what happen if a child receive this cone in his face. No sanctions, no excuses, nothing to anquiet the racer.... This must never happen again!
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Ramon,Ramón Königshausen wrote:PS: Flat 1.70 for Pros must never happen again either. Then I fully comply.
This is not about posting funny jokes on the forum. This is about your very childish behaviour and a flying helmet followed by a flying cone that was only like 30 cm away from causing injury on a spectator (a child!). Don't make me regret that you weren't DQ'd immediately, because that is what you deserved.
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On behalf of the Spanish crew I have to say:
- We had fun
- Great organization
- Best food so far in a competition
- We finally made it pass the qualification stage
- We learned a lot from watching and talking
- Met great guys and gals
- Two ladys on a bachelor party wanted to kindnap us @ a Grenoble bar
Q: What else can you ask for?
R: some sun and some paella. Rest: great
- We had fun
- Great organization
- Best food so far in a competition
- We finally made it pass the qualification stage
- We learned a lot from watching and talking
- Met great guys and gals
- Two ladys on a bachelor party wanted to kindnap us @ a Grenoble bar
Q: What else can you ask for?
R: some sun and some paella. Rest: great
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Grenoble was ready for wonderfull event with one of the best organisation ever. biger, smaler Posters and advertising all over the city, on the streets inside pizerias -every where.this was only some things which was posible to see even if you was not a skater.
Wether, wether- this is the thing which its not posible to change. wery pity about it, otherway im ksure there was posibilitie to be full stadion with spectators.
Thanks to Philip and all organisation krew for making big Job for this event in a long time.
The best plan b for suturday.
This is one from only some events which will be on my plans in 2009.
Wether, wether- this is the thing which its not posible to change. wery pity about it, otherway im ksure there was posibilitie to be full stadion with spectators.
Thanks to Philip and all organisation krew for making big Job for this event in a long time.
The best plan b for suturday.
This is one from only some events which will be on my plans in 2009.
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- Airflow - Skateboards
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Jani Soderhall wrote:Ramon,Ramón Königshausen wrote:PS: Flat 1.70 for Pros must never happen again either. Then I fully comply.
This is not about posting funny jokes on the forum. This is about your very childish behaviour and a flying helmet followed by a flying cone that was only like 30 cm away from causing injury on a spectator (a child!). Don't make me regret that you weren't DQ'd immediately, because that is what you deserved.
/Jani
It wasn't meant as a joke. But rather an agreement that Pierre was right and I did something wrong and regret it. And it was also to explain my reaction because I still cannot understand the course specs for pros. Men, I won that race on my GS board!
However, I feel sorry that that happend. I dare say that I can best learn from mistakes. So this will remain an exception. I'm human after all and that makes me criticizable.
But on the other hand I would also like to see some folks aiming in the right direction, rather than remain uncritcizable. (e.g. course setting)
rmn
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Ramon!!! YOU MAKE IT IN SECOND DAY, IN SPECIAL TIGHT NOT IN STRAYGHT!!!(dont talk about cone distance, course was realy good).RAMON THERE IS ONLY ONE REASON - YOUR LOOSE., NOTHING MOORE.Ramon can injured the Kid, only lucky way was helping this time.Flying cones helmet and "lexikon"....This was not everything.This was not precluding reaction. For sport intereses i hope we will not see videeo in youtube.
I think for euro marshal this reaction is even more preclude.
I think for euro marshal this reaction is even more preclude.
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- Airflow - Skateboards
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Janis kuzmins wrote:Ramon!!! YOU MAKE IT IN SECOND DAY, IN SPECIAL TIGHT NOT IN STRAYGHT!!!(dont talk about cone distance, course was realy good).RAMON THERE IS ONLY ONE REASON - YOUR LOOSE., NOTHING MOORE.Ramon can injured the Kid, only lucky way was helping this time.Flying cones helmet and "lexikon"....This was not everything.This was not precluding reaction. For sport intereses i hope we will not see videeo in youtube.
I think for euro marshal this reaction is even more preclude.
Yes, the course on Sunday was surprisingly good, I liked it. Don't think I didn't like the course because I lost. I'm not a mean person.
And on your arguing that this reaction isn't appropriate for a euro marshal: You're right. The reaction was not appropriate. But you also have to understand the the Status Marshals did their best to coordinate all the events and make them as best as possible by making suggestions to event organizers that were based on their event experience. So how do you feel if you have to keep suggesting people that they should maybe change something (small) in order to make it better and more attractive for more racers?
Throughout the season I remember two events that did not follow the sanction recommendations. Nevertheless we decided (like Jani did last weekend - thank you Jani) to be mild and not pull the status away or do something else in order to put a penalty on them.
Don't think I'm not aware of what I did and that I wouldn't regret it and come to think about it. I do reflect upon my mistakes. So should others reflect upon our suggestions and recommendations. It's not very constructive to remain stubborn and uncriticizable.
Whenever I talked to you (Janis) this season, before the conversation we had different perspectives, but after listening to your opinions and reflecting upon them I was able to understand your point of view and always tried to find a good compromise in my thoughts in order to see the issue at hand the most objective as possible.
I'd like to gather all the different opinions and somehow find a good compromise. That's the way to go. Accept others opinions and combine them with your own. It's not easy but it's really worth trying it!
rmn
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