NEXT YEAR THE EUROS IN BRIXLEGG?

[Donald Campbell]

after the first test-balloon was succesful i got the ok from our main sponsor to repeat the event.
since we all agreed on changing continents for the worlds to happen i'll let the canadians and americans battle for it.i want to do the euros next year.
this means:same money,some more courses,more work into the details of the event.
one day all alone for a death race and highest air best trick contest plus party plus beer plus girls contest at the cradle.
i got quite a few tips from fellow skate buddies on improvements and i want to say thank you for that and that your input is highly valued.
the overall consens is very positive on this race and encourages me to have a second go on the venue.
i am thinking about the placement of the race also and i want to hear first of all,if you want it to happen again and...

second when should we have the euros next year?
if we are clever enough we can arrange something like a powerweek with two different and interesting contests in europe.
i am very open to suggestions regarding a date!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this might encourage quite a few americans to come over and visit both races.
i'll make sure some of our good friends will DEFINITELY be there!!!!

I'm all ears for any constructive input.
thanks
don

[Steve Hinzen]

while everybody else seems to be biting their nails and hesitating on answering this here is my personal word:

YES!

[Donald Campbell]

i just had a good con with one of my buddies at carhartt.
with some of the input i gathered from the racers next year will be even bigger and better
i have a detailed list on improvements to make the euros next year the biggest and the best ever.
with money in your back everythings possible,without any it's hard.

the word is out in america about the last race,we can expect more americans to come next year.
so these will be the first euros then where you see racers coming on their own without a big guy stepping up the plate to make such a race possible.
one of the things is to make it a 4 day event,not only 3 days.
we need one extra day for a death race and a big big party going on at the cradle.
some of the improvements for next year will feature scoreboards,timetables,paid conejudges,bigger pa's for the event itself,maybe gnarlier races,maybe a faster gs than this one?everybody loved it(well a few exceptions were there... but hey...),but there's more...
wait and see....
i'll open a new section up for constructive input on improvements soon and then we'll talk.

carhartt wants it again
brixlegg wants it again
how about you guys?

[Dominik Kowalski]

DamnIwantit!!!

Yeah, make it louder, make it bigger, and yes, make the GS even faster!!!! Shit! I can't wait until next year! From now on I will count the days....damn.

Louder: The Race is the reason for the party, so we need some ass kicking bands, the bands were not that bad but it they could't really make a difference.....I would also like to see the Don himself hitting the strings you have one year of practice, hehe.... so no excuses!!!;)

Bigger: Spectators where all around, but infact nobody from Brix (besides ther skaters) really knew about the event before, that should be taken care of next time. Some Posters and Flyers....

Faster: Yes! Yes!Yes!

Longer: If it will be a 4 days event, make sure everybody will have something of this. Ex: Racing 4 days in Paris was fine, but everybody who was not racing in the nations cup was kind of left behind. Off course it was fun to watch, but think of guys and girls who has nothing to do on a whole day, just waiting for the finish...we don't want that! But I'm sure you already took care of each and everything

I can't wait!

[Carsten Pingel]

I'll be there too !

Talk to Mr.Baumgartner from Café / Konditorei Baumgartner ! He has connections to the local newspapers, radio stations and the local tv !

[Chris Eggers]

I want to refer to my post

"imagination of a perfect Slalom race"

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Brixlegg certainly was not perfect, and it was not all true what Donald said before, but I did not expect that much.
Organising a slalom race is a hard task. very hard indeed, and I want to give Donald my biggest thank you for doing it, and he did it good. I think all you guys complaining and wining are not doing him justice. Sure, things went wrong and came out different than expected, but come on:

- we did not have to wait too long for our runs thanks to the two-times-practice rule
- everyone (well almost) had the same amount of practice thanks to this rule
- we had enough to drink
- we got 3 warm meals
- the timing system worked
- we had one of the worlds best skateparks near the race
- we had two perfect race tracks
- we made an impression there


Jadranko, I waited 12 hours to race in Grüningen 2003, I paid a lot for food, in the years before noone even told the names of the racers, just numbers, I had to kill to get my times, the timing system went wrong a lot of times. No one in Grüningen is really interested in the race. Did we have spectators there? More than 10?
Did you forget that?

Elena, I still do not really know what you wrote in your post in russian, but please, do it better than Donald, try not to piss anyone off and try to rule the weather. How many slalom races did you put up? Did you put your money, your time, your reputation at risk yet? No you did not.

Donald, go for it again. I do not know if I will be able to attend, because we expect our second child at the end of the year. But I hope.
I will try to be there.

Start the new thread about the improvements, maybe this is going to be constructive.

[Jadranko Radovanovic]

I forgot nothing what happened in Grueningen.
It was a prozess which needed some time and where you can see the rusults.
But we aren't talking about grueningen here.

We had here a complete diffrent situation. We had another candidate for the World's, we were talking about, Corky made a decission based on what happened on this Forum. Which people wrote at this time in the Forum ? It came from three sites, Pierre, Jadranko, Donald and his Teammates with support from Germany.

It was Donald's time to organise the event. He did it. Now the competition is over. The Feeeback came. Just good things from the people who support the Event in the beginning. Than a protest from a Rider. The Rider made a protest based on the old ISSA rules. The reaction came from the race organiser and some other people involved or not involved in the organisation. They declare the race as not an ISSA race, they took the whole responsibility for the race on their shoulder's. The comminication from the organisers are more than unrespectful, not just in this Forum even at the race track. Things happened at this Worlds, where i as a rider must say it isn't one of the best slalom event's.

Here are two general Point which schouldn't happen at a WC

1. Rider's as Conejudges.
2. Too much changes in the race office.

And there is only one general point to have the things clear for next year.

1. ISSA should sanctioned the races and give some guidlines and rules out.

Yes, there are people out who are against the rules, but without rules we will get this situation back again. The priority should be based on the slalom event's not on Pool event's or whatever.

/J-Rad

[Donald Campbell]

dear jadranko

maybe at the next race you take your time to be at the race for the full length of the whole event.
then,and only then,you are allowed to have a general oppinion.
some of your comments lack your presence at the races to give detailed criticism.

you should keep that in mind when you go ahead criticising.
jany,corky,chris,adel,joe...they all did an excellent job at the timing.
and yes i can change as often as i want when it comes to people recording a race.
why?
because it's better to have fresh people sitting behind a laptop than worn-out people.
we didn't need dan in this event,the euros did a wonderful and nearly perfect job,one that's really hard to beat(before commenting this please refer to the comments of the other participants,this will DEFINITELY save a comment from your side).
park-races yes we need them,even if you disagree-feel free to do so again,not many people will follow your wrong assumption on that.
as it shows there are many racers who also love to skate pools and stuff,they really enjoyed their stay at the park and during the whole event.
we got a supergood feedback from the americans also,which means for next year there will be more to attend,without a single person funding their trip.
THIS IS SO IMPORTANT!!!
i can't pay or influence everybody(as you seem to hint at in your previous post regarding the germans),please keep that in mind.

maybe the german background is also easy to explain:i did what i did and people seem to like that,same goes for this race.

alas i am still not finished with my work.
right now we are working on the media feedback as promised before and i can upper the ante on my promises there as it seems right now.

please go ahead and buy the november concrete wave mag which gets distributed in the whole world,jason mitchell is writing the article there(and hey i'm so stoked about that).we are talking about 6 pages there it's a skate-mag by the way
boardstein from germany will do eight pages in the september issue a skate-mag again.


rugged(carhartt magazine) distributed worldwide will do the same.
last try from austria(again a skate-mag) want to feature it too.
the austrian newspapers covered the event instantly.
there are a few more online mags also
this is just the written stuff

i don't wanna go on

next year we will have a few austrian competitors also the seed is sown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


bring it to the masses let em embrace and accept it and you have reached the ultimate goal.

[Carsten Pingel]

We will support you, Don, if you want the help !

[Heiko Schöller]

Jadranko. Yes there where some mistakes and faults in this weekend for sure. The Tight surface cource was not so good and some posters at the park or in the city where missing and maybe there was a misunderstanding at the girls race? But in the end who cares because the rest was really really good. For me it was the best race weekend ever.

Carhartt Package and WC shirt for free
Drinks the whole weekend for free
Very long giant
new surface for the special
parkrace and super skatepark
swimming in a nice lake every day
perfect timing system with 2. monitor
...
...
...

Yes we (G.O.G.) support Don because he is doing some really good things.

The only question I would ask myself is why you don´t get the support from the swiss guys?

I have nothing against you but hey you where at home on sunday, so what you are talking about? You where only one day there so shut up.

Organise a good race next year and try to make it better than Donald!!! If I have time I will come and when the race is good you will get the same feedback like I now give to Don.

You as one of the guys from the ISSA should try to work together and not against eachother...Accept that most of the people enjoyed the weekend and try to give your best on your race to make it better then the "sport" will grow.

[Pierre Samray]

Hello all.
Before speaking. I listen.
About Brixxleg : Not the best one but a very good one.
Missing "cone marshall everybody know that, missing some advertissment in the village, and some good pro speaker with strong sound. But I enjoy this race anyway and see Don giving the best of himself.
Now you have to know some other organizer can have the same project as Don about Euro next year. Grenoble in France is on the list. It's a big city and the organizer (it's not a skater) but an usual sponsor in slalom skate. He has a lot of contact with media and contact me to help in (there will be no race in Antibes next year).
Certainly other people have project too in other places.
What's seems to be important now it's to create a working staff which take a decision.
Organizers have to do a candidature file and propose it to this staff. By this way, each organizers give the best of himself to prepare it and at the end the staff choice which one seems to give the best waranties. I think that Eurochampionship must be an official ISSA event (because now, everybody consider ISSA world ranking as the official one

Last thing
ANTIBES will be candidate for the World championship ISSA in 2008. So far but I really thinking of it!

So Brixxleg Euro in 2007 : why not but let's listen the other projects

[Chris Eggers]

So....intersting.
There seems to be a contest for a contest. Or even better for two contests........the worlds candidates and the Euro candidates. Considering the fact that we did not have ANY races in Europe for a decade or more that is very good. Great.

I was thinking of something that I was hesitating to post, but it bugs me. I am sure I will piss people off with it, but believe me, it is not what I want. It is just my opinion:

Non-Euros in Euro Championchips or vice versa non-US in US-Champs and so on

I believe a European Championchip clearly declared as it has to be closed in participation for non-Euros like in other sports. Not that I do not like them to race here, I love seeing that, but in the way we have the races, it is not possible to make it fair.
If we had a format like allowing each racer two runs, best time counting and basta, it would be ok. Just make a ranking with everyone and a seperate Euro ranking and you are well off. BUT: if we do the head to head thing several Éuropean skaters could be taken out of the race early by a non-Euro thus denying them the chance to climb up in the ranks during the finals.
If you (race organizer) want to organise the Euro Championchips, please think about that. Everyone else, think about that and let me hear your thoughts ( I am sure I have pissed off someone again) Please really think about it before you post.

I mean, if you want to have an international field you culd easily call the race a World Cup (Paris!) and you are well off.

[Jadranko Radovanovic]

We are again on the same way. It don't depands who support me and who not, we aren't talking about me, about my races neither about Donald as person. Just about the organisation of the Event.

True, i was one day there because it wasn't possible to spend more time there for me because of work.

I asked some day's before when the special will be ? To attend just this race.

What did i get as answer from the organiser ? "check the dates and you now the answer"
I asked on 13 July get the answer from Paul K. on 18 July one day before the event.

I don't talk about the emotional feeling which i had at this race too. I enjoyed the event, it was nice too meet all the people again after a long time.

What i'm talking about is the organisation which shows the big picture about our sport.

Infos about the shedule and the event on www.brixlegg-championchips.com...
reaction from the organisator's side... (communication with the rider's)
correct Infos about the disziplines... (special was announced as 6-8 feet, we had somthing very diffrent on the day as announced before)
communication to the media... ( I was talking with Donald when the local newspaper guy came and asked him if there is an assosiation behind the whole (sport) thing, he answered with no, he his the man who organise this. The same with the ISSA, that they have just a banner space for promotion.

ISSA is not running yet the World Ranking neither a World Cup Series or the European / World Championchips, but many people expect that the ISSA makes some guidlines, rules for the Sport and support the organisators in the possibilities of the ISSA. But to come to a goal you need everytime both sides and both sides have to go in the same or similiar direction.

I have nothing against you but hey you where at home on sunday, so what you are talking about? You where only one day there so shut up.

At this one day i saw...

...that the conejudges were organised 5 minutes before the race
...how a wrong number of the cone was typing into the spreadsheet, not because of a typing error. I told it two times to the guy's behind the computer and than they saw it by itself.
...a re run for a rider where the cone was on the right place. I and a photographer who stand next to me didn't saw a mistake on the course and we didn't saw that somthing was changed for the rerun.

I think this are big things which are unaccetable for a World Championchips or a World Cup.

I was talking with a lot of people during the day and there are a lot who weren't happy how the race was organised after the big words before.

I'm not against Donald or Brixlegg or the support from the German's neither i have a problem with this. I will be next year in Brixlegg as well and for shure more than just one day. The only thing i want to reach is, that we all know what we have to expact at a race and what the guidlines are to host a race and that we have an Organisation behind our sport, it can make some things easier.

/J-Rad

[Donald Campbell]

so the big question is "who saw what?"
the guys behind the computer in this case were jani,adel,chris.


but it's ok for each andverybody to have his own oppinion,so much for that part.


the other side,when talking about an organization there are some things that come to my mind,here are some of the important ones.
take soccer for instance what does the organization do?

just a few vital aspects of the work:
secure the locations
pay the locations
sell rights to merchandisers
receive money from sponsors-THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT PART


on that day when this happens we will talk again



but before that day we just talk and talk and talk which is a very common sport on this forum,i'm involved too at the moment,how fast can i type?

take street or pool skating no especially street-skating as an instance or as an example

organization for any contests?


NO

why is that so?

see above


sponsors make things happen

big sponsors


no carhartt no worlds as you've seen them,no money no encouragement for riders from across the pond to come over.
at this event we had the first time that the women got paid for winning


there were a few things which never happened before

maybe some of you noticed the improvements

at least the measuring stick for any good contest is a bit higher now-not necessarily talking about the money.


and this is good for the sport



on the issa and actions so far


what happened?


did anybody see something change?

does the vast majority really care?

do skaters in general want to be guided?

that's an answer that has been answered already through the decades.


i'm not here to dismantle anything but i'm really asking myself these questions frm a disatnat viewpoint.

i feel good not being involved with the issa

i can proceed doing good contests,having fun meeting people and so on


at the end of our life me and quite a few others will still remember brixlegg as an outstanding event(not my words,but i feel free to share that).

issa what did it do for the sport?


does anybody know or care


all i see is nothing

don't feel too offended by this(you might tend to do so)

maybe it's time for a reality check for you jadranko and the rest of the chosen bunch.

pat chewning is just typing some decisions from a quatrly base which nobody really cares about.
the rest remains silent even you jadranko

now you're back in full force typing and contemplating about things.


what's the use?


does this make life any better?

who benefits from that?



bottom line for me is:
continue creating good contests,market the outcome the best way possible and bring slalom to the masses.

we all benefit from those actions,which are REAL actions and not a ghost on a message board.

[Paul Keleher]

Donald,

Overall the event was excellent and generally us Brits had a cracking good time.

My only criticism, albeit very small, is the timing. Now i know the trakmate on the day worked well, although i am a little suspect of my SS 2nd runtime...perhaps the battery was dying!

anyway, i feel as this was the "World Championships" a little more investment in renting a "world class timer" such as a TAG or ALGE system for the weekend would have been worthwile. maybe for next time.

thanks again for putting on the event

Paul K

[Donald Campbell]

dear paul
thanks for your constructive input

the timer had fresh batteries each morning
chris hart had a backup system running for the timing during the races,so i think that those times recorded were most accurate.

in spite of that i will consider looking into the things you suggested

[Jadranko Radovanovic]

The good thing was, that we saw the same in the end. And it was 4 not 2.

We aren't at the same level as the soccer is. If you look at the history of Soccer, the money starts to come in 1994 at the World Championchips in the US. Now 12 year's later they have the money to organise the World Championchips in Sibiria or Alaska if they want.

To compare a sport with 1'000'000'000 sportsman with another with 1'000 sportsman is just stupid.

Grueningen has payed this year the women as well.

I counted 6 people from US in Paris, was it because of the Prize money ?

at least the measuring stick for any good contest is a bit higher now-not necessarily talking about the money.

and this is good for the sport

please give me just one voucher for that and not just intuitive statements.

About the ISSA:

The ISSA is on her way. It should be a global organisation for everyone, and that needs time.

did anybody see something change?

- ss.com is under the name of ISSA
- more will fallow

does the vast majority really care?

- Have a look at the memberlist
- There are top racer's who want to have a guidline, rules and want to know what they can expact at the race, which disziplines they gonna to race and what the definition for this diszplines are.

do skaters in general want to be guided?

wrong question...

Who is a skater and who not ?

For me is slalom near to snowboard slalom than to street skate.

As an example, the Olympia winner Phillip Schoch in Snowboard Slalom is just a Snowboardracer not a Snowboardfreestyler he don't wear typical Snowboard cloths in his freetime. There are a lot in the slalom scene as well, who just slalom skate and don't skate in general.

skate slalom ==> snowboard slalom
street skate ==> freestyle (halfpipe, park aso.) snowboard

Is snowboard slalom regulated and have guidlines ?
Yes, it goes into the smallest details. It is clear and every run has a decision by the timer.

Is skate slalom regulated and have guidlines ?
Not yet, but it's on the way. It should be clear (it needn't to go into the details) and every run has a decision by the timer and cones.

Is street skate regulated and have guidlines ?
I don't know. The only thing i know is that the Euros are in Basel, why they are every time at the same location i don't know. The decision of a victory are based on judges, they have their guidlines but it's not as clear as the display of a timer.

Is freestyle snowboard regulated and have guidlines ?
Not as the snowboard slalom have. The decision of a victory are based on judges, they have their guidlines but it's not as clear as the display of a timer.

maybe it's time for a reality check for you jadranko and the rest of the chosen bunch.

pat chewning is just typing some decisions from a quatrly base which nobody really cares about.
the rest remains silent even you jadranko

now you're back in full force typing and contemplating about things.

The reality needs time to analyse and to have patience to see what happen. Yes, Pat wrote the decision about the 6-wheeler's. The only reaction was that they stopped to talk if it's allowed or not, because there was a decison. Everyone decide by himself if he cares about the decision or not.

silent or not. You will never know what i do behind this Forum. To contemplating about things is an important thing for the advancement of the oven personality. As i see, you never contemplating about your way how you communicate.

I stop here my force and coming back with some structures and guidlines.

/J-Rad

[Martin Siegrist]

jadranko you are a SLALOMskater that's true.

but most of the skaters who really love the sport don't care about what they skate. they skate everything. slalom, pool, parks, freeride, downhill, banks, cones, parking lots, rigiblick, monuments. whatever. can you feel the flow?

[Patrick Allan]

Something like they had in Riga, where the racers and spectators could see the times at the bottom of the course could be a good improvement...

[Ramón Königshausen]

faster racetracks

rmn

[Carsten Pingel]

....and no keyboard fights between J-Rad and Donald anymore, please !

[Ramón Königshausen]

Haha, let's cross "key" in "keyboard" and add "skate"!

We wanna see you in a skate battle!

rmn

[Vincent Berruchon]

Euros or not
Brixlegg is a great destination for anykind of skateboard stuff!!!
I'd like also to see some new destinations for the races but this one is good so let's do it again

Paris will be approximately on the same week end as ever: 26/27/28 may 2007
Nothing sure but you can also expect another big and NEW race in France the 8/9 september 2007

jadranko you are a SLALOMskater that's true.

but most of the skaters who really love the sport don't care about what they skate. they skate everything. slalom, pool, parks, freeride, downhill, banks, cones, parking lots, rigiblick, monuments. whatever. can you feel the flow?

Big Up Martin!!! Skate everything we can try to skate! That's what we like

[Donald Campbell]

hahahaha
i'm on ramon i'm on

hell yeah

freestyle, pool ,slalom the only problem now is jadranko has to accept it.

next year in brixlegg we'll see then

so there's one year of time for jrad to polish up some nonexisting skills.


let's do it i'm there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


loser has to smell the socks of the winner for 1 minute closely held to his nose.


i do have excellent shoes which are the biggest fear to my neighborhood.i'll bring those with me then.
no more keyboardracing some good action is due!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mike Cividino]

just give Tzable some time with your shoes Donald.

[Sam Gordon]

It's bizarre reading an online battle between two skate characters whose combined skills might one day produce one one of the best organised events to be seen in Europe.



In the interim, is there an online gambling site where we can bet on their race outcome?
And, can a certain Russian lady please set the rules for this event?

Who's da crueller?

Bragging rights last just one hour or one post. Any breach of this regulation leads to a stripping of the hard-won mantle. Right, Mr Landis?

On-track weaponry is to be encouraged.


Oh yeah. Euros in Brixlegg would be great.

[Carsten Pingel]

Don's Socks ?????? NO WAY !!!!!!!!!!! In 1 minute whole Austria would be contermined !!! ))

[Janis kuzmins]

I am very surprised that the organizers of the World championship in Brixlegg don't listen to objective critique.Europe waited for a long time the chance to organize the World championship,with hope,that it will give extra push to slalom future.A lot of things were promised in the fight for chance to organize this event,but for the race it was just the name World championship,truth was that this race was like small local race with very good racers and prizes.With no interest from spectators and media!And with lot organization mistakes,witch are unforgivable at the World championship(free food & drinks are good things,but they are secondary).
Primary things:
1.Race place with a lot of spectators(witch wasn't),good surface witch was terrible for slalom and it made driving very dangerous(so much falls were never seen before!!!).For a lot of racers organizers have tooked of chance to fight for the title,if he felt in PLAY-OFFs for him the fight for the title was over!The driving in the 1st day driving was very terrible.Imagine,if the swimming Worldchamp would be in lake,not in pool,sprinters would run in the beach,not stadium!!!The race track should be closed(imagine,if the car from the gasstation was hitted someone,it would be terrible!!!).
2.Time system,starting ramp(they were good),speaker,racetracks.
Very good GS!Did the second day race was special(12-16feet!!!).Promised were 6-7feet!!!
About racetracks.Guys,who are racing 10-15 years and more(like Luca and Jani),know that from history there are 3 slalom disciplines:streight,special(now tight) and gigant.Sad that ISSA rules don't work,because every organizer can make his own rules and even disciplines!ISSA isn't member of GAISA(organization,that puts in it unolimpic sport federations)!Also good speaker is a very often problem.
3.Organization.
Of course there was a lot of good things in the World championship,but how it can be a real World championship without conejudges?How can racers pay money,get ready for his start(fight for 1/100 of a sec)if he must be a conejudge few sec before start!In gigant it was more terrible,where racers fighted for championtitle and,at the same time,for the best conejudge title!Unbelivable!Organizer budget must be proporcional(smaller prizes,but paied conejudges).In the city were only few posters!
Please,don't take it personal,but try to fix your weakest organizatoric things.
In the Forum the bigest part of good replies camed from very close people.But you need to listen to healthy critique,because a lot of TOP drivers,who are not very active in the Forum(just like me)also thinks like me.I don't want to make a discution,but bla,bla,bla don't change anything.
However,for me that is bad,that the race level has went down,but someone it's O.K.!
If the races will be in such level,it will take slalom in the situation just like in the 90ties,when slalom died...
Now,in slalom,there aren't a lot of active countries,for example,if I will stop racing in Latvia,then there won't be anyone who will teach the future slalomers!And few more countries are at the same situation. That's very good that there are new point on the slalom map-Brixlegg.I think next year they should organize World cup where to show how they fixed few organizatoric mistakes,then they can make a superrace!!!Antibes and Paris also learned from their mistakes and now they organize fantastic races!

[Adel Ahmed]

i support you don , i'm here for you if you need a time manager or each other, it's a great idee and a very nice spot,but some people forgotten the first, you was alone for organised the contest with 10.000$ in prize money, everybody , don't forget the prize money.so, if you can do better , faster and with the smile and hapiness, LET'S GO...

ps: we go in slalom races because we love slalom, so the race is about slalom, not about an organisator overall . all organisator is perfect , because during 2 or 3 day , he his the manager of the races dreaming.

[Ramón Königshausen]

I'd like to summerize a few things that ought to be fixed next time (and of which should be taken care in general).

- Conejudging ought not to be done by riders

- At a prizegiving the crowd should be allowed/able to cheer & shout (well, Brixlegg was kinda bad luck...)

- Prize money shouldn't only be given to overall winners. (For example me or Chris who became (vice) worldchampion we didn't get nothing [ok, ok we could have made it but like this it makes a plausible example] ) > The way they did it in Paris f.e. is good.

- Complaints have to be made directly at the race office and discussed before everything is closed and finished. If there is anybody being harmed, don't hesitate and complain as fast as possible so that possible evidence doesn't get lost.

- Bad surface - well, it's not so much fun, at least it's the same conditions for everyone and everybody has to deal with those...it's a small thing to fix. Actually, in Brixlegg the road we raced on on the first day would have been okay if there wasn't that construction side right to the event. > no rain that could have spoilt away dust & stuff.
bwt. With the right technique you can make your board stick to almost every surface - Wheter it is fun to race on or not, that's a different question.

- Media and spectators: There were a few Austrians that came to the GS and watched. Also at the Special site I could make out a few spectators close to the cafés. All in all there haven't been many of them, that's true - but it wasn't to expect either. Media I guess is coming. As far as I know there are couple of magazines writing articles about the WC. TV would have been nice...maybe next time. (check this TV spot from the Downhill Worldchampionships in Switzerland: Sportpanorama or youtube.com keyword "COASH")

- The dicipline naming problem: What is special slalom? Should it be tight or what?
For me it is a kind of slalom that can be tight but does not have to, but it has to be technical.(I found the special slalom in Brixleg technical enuough)
So what is tight then? Straight slalom? - Yes, but not as they had it in Paris, Hannover and Jūrmala with 2m conespacing where you could run your GS deck through.
Tight and Special slalom cna meet each other as well as Straight and Tight slalom can.
So as a conclusion, "Special Slalom" can either be technical Tight Slalom with (nasty) offsets and stuff or it is rather technical Hybrid Slalom with also some (nasty) offsets & stuff.
I like both, but tight is where I'm good at...


I hope this summary gives you kind of an overview or opens new perspectives, guidelines or whatever. And since I'm Swiss, I want to be fairly neutral in here.

rmn

[Donald Campbell]

to janis:

don't misunderstand the situation please!

i am gathering info right now and immediately after race to improve things for next year.

my job now is to bring the event to the media and to IMPROVE.

thanks for your highly valued input

i got already good info from pierre,claude,ramon and a few other good friends which i will
absolutely take into consideration!!!!