Any history and ideas very welcome.
Thanks Tim
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A little history....Wesley Tucker wrote:Tim,
I didn't know Bobby built anything in the mid-1990s. I know he built some Blackbirds for Gilmour around 1991 or so, but anything between then and 2000 would surprise me.
I'm not arguing with CBara, but I'd think your board might be closer to 5 or 6 years old rather than 9 or 10. Then again, BT may very well have put together some one-offs sporadically all through the 1990s. Chris may know this better than me. Other good sources to ask are Tiger Williams and Lynn Kramer or maybe Paul Dunn. They were in close contact with both Bobby before his death and Bobby's widow, Peggy. They may shed some more light on the timeline for your machine.
Either way, it's a gorgeous deck. Bobby did black glas better than anyone. Rick Howell has said emphatically that you probably will never get a black Ick. He hates black tints for resins.
Just to clarify. The needlenose under discussion is NOT a Seismic/Turner. Those date from the early 90s. The cores I refered to were shaped by Bobby for (I think) John Gilmour in the mid 90s, of which there were maybe 12 needlenoses and 8 fullnoses (John, want to clarify?). Bobby did use some of the left over material he had from the Seismic Turners as far as glass/foam for the early Turner Downhills but the Seismic turners were different beats...slightly bigger. I rode a 34" (?) Seismic Turner needlenose that TK owned way back when, like 2000/01..AMAZING board. Due to the shared materials they rode alot like the one in this topic, which rode alot different than the ones Bobby made new in 2000/01.Christopher Bara wrote:Chris, thanks for that explanation. I had some of those facts down, but never knew the whole story of the Seismic/Turner Green/Black connection.
It still might be the one I owned/raced as I sold a needlenose to someone in TX. I can't remember which one it was, I had 3.Christopher Bara wrote:The board in Tims hands came from Pengo in Texas...he's always had a penchant for collecting rarities.
...I warned you when I sold it to you...there was a reason I named that board "Hell Bitch"...Christopher Bara wrote:Actually, i do still have that fullnose i bought from you Chris S, i've toyed with a couple paint jobs on it and it's taken apart right now for a strip down and redo...it's purdy but has that huge camber and i never could ride it comfortably.....but it's beautiful and i like looking at it, so it's not going anywhere.
Ah, Chris, my boy, you are so far behind the times. All my vintage stuff is now OFFICIALLY RETIRED. I rode my stiff red cut away at the Farm vintage in '05, but that's it. I now got new Icks, the Blackbird, a PP Stealth and some Roe Unlimiteds.Christopher Bara wrote:Wes Tucker is STILL riding them, he's got it down.
You are correct, as far as I know/remember. There can't be more than 4-5 of those black/green needlenoses from that 01 batch. I can remember where 4 went, mine included, maybe that was all there was. There were also one or two red/white needlenoses and I vaguely remember a Yellow/red needlenose as well. All the early Turner downhill decks, the first batch to fill the early orders, were needlenoses. Gilmour had cleaned out the fullnose cores/decks and blackbirds in the 90s.Tim Robinson wrote:So ........ just checking........this deck is 1 of maybe 5 made by???? in 2001 using a core shaped by bobby in about 1997 originally for the sims turners ,and using green and black because thats all he had laying around. It was made for the "Turner Downhill" that Howard had organised.
Is this correct?
David baker has kindly parted with a set of new la Costas with the pink duro line and also 2 sets of used ones.
Now i need to find some carbon tracker base plates.
on the wefunk it should really be needed because they have wood where the trucks are mounted, not foam. Also Im wondering what you think of yours compared to other foam cores like pps. I came across a very good deal on one for less then what a pps foam core would normally beAdam Daniels wrote:back them off? thanks for the info. i'll go do that now to my wefunk and turner
seeing those pictures posted above really makes me want to get another turner. can't wait to rip mine at the farm this upcoming year