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Wait! Weight!
Whats the LIGHTEST slalom board commercially available. And how much does it weigh?
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I'll bet it weighs less than that lead-fiber tank you had in California, Michael. Man, I hurt my wrist just trying to heft that thing off the terra! Was that a depleted uranium center ply? (It did kinda "shimmer" from a distance, and I appreciate you letting my cook my lunch by setting the bag on your board.)
I recently held one of those thin, Fibreflex slalom re-pops (Marvin, who was at Pump Station, rides it) and will nominate that as the lightest deck I've held without trucks on it. It's pretty light, but I didn't put it on a postage scale... It's also really small, of course.
I recently held one of those thin, Fibreflex slalom re-pops (Marvin, who was at Pump Station, rides it) and will nominate that as the lightest deck I've held without trucks on it. It's pretty light, but I didn't put it on a postage scale... It's also really small, of course.
I ride fast boards, slowly.
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on an average deck with average materials 740g is pretty light (the board has to last a few seasons also).
anything lighter than that is absolutely possible (also for me), but it requires more carbon, carbon is expensive and thus adding to the cost of the board. so much for that.
we have a german saying which goes: "they all cook with water".
anything lighter than that is absolutely possible (also for me), but it requires more carbon, carbon is expensive and thus adding to the cost of the board. so much for that.
we have a german saying which goes: "they all cook with water".
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The deck construction is VERY strong. It was used in anger at Pump Station in San Diego, and stood on by Ritchie Carrasco without wheels to test for breking point...it didnt break.
Yup, Carbon aint cheap, luckily the manufacturer uses carbon in most of the stuff they make, and that has to be tested to conform to EU regulations for destruction. So they know their stuff.
No plans for leopard skins so your lovely Pavels can sleep well!
Its been fun to be involved with this project, they have made boards for a few years, but only now feel confident they have all the pieces in place, making decks is not easy. Feedback has been that these havethe best finish yet seen on a high end deck.
Yup, Carbon aint cheap, luckily the manufacturer uses carbon in most of the stuff they make, and that has to be tested to conform to EU regulations for destruction. So they know their stuff.
No plans for leopard skins so your lovely Pavels can sleep well!
Its been fun to be involved with this project, they have made boards for a few years, but only now feel confident they have all the pieces in place, making decks is not easy. Feedback has been that these havethe best finish yet seen on a high end deck.
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A few ounces more or less don't matter to me. I should loose some weight to compensate...it's cheaper than the carbon fiber substitute.Michael Stride wrote:Sorry Donald, the second prototype was 4 inches longer...and lighter than YoYos.
The GOG deck Donald made for me is VERY light and responsive. So far I have had only two test sessions due to BAD rainy weather here, but it rides great.
I just have to get more back into Slalom after the loonnng winter.
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Sure, perhaps many of us need to lose weight....I just feel if the board is as light as can be, but retains robustness, and that unquantifiable 'feel' then that has to be good. Particularly in a push start.
I'm sure Donalds Pavels have the 'feel'. And an all out competition for lightness is useless without that 'feel'.
The Wefunks/Airflows/Pavels/Roes/Pocket Pistols are fantastic boards....but I'm proud that a UK company can make a contender that has been developed properly, looks good, and most importantly WORKS.
I'm sure Donalds Pavels have the 'feel'. And an all out competition for lightness is useless without that 'feel'.
The Wefunks/Airflows/Pavels/Roes/Pocket Pistols are fantastic boards....but I'm proud that a UK company can make a contender that has been developed properly, looks good, and most importantly WORKS.
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Major modern differences are:
15 degree kick stomp rear.
Drilling on the tail (vertically drilled for great truck alignmnent). Allowing for optimum grip and rear foot placement.
Stiffer torsionnally.
Lighter by far.
Integrated risers in the bottom surface, shaped for ridgidity and strength where needed
Inserts where bolts go, allowing for countersunk bolts so flat grip surface.
Concave.
Apart from that, if it looks a s nice as a fibreflex I'll take that as a complimnent Yoyo!
15 degree kick stomp rear.
Drilling on the tail (vertically drilled for great truck alignmnent). Allowing for optimum grip and rear foot placement.
Stiffer torsionnally.
Lighter by far.
Integrated risers in the bottom surface, shaped for ridgidity and strength where needed
Inserts where bolts go, allowing for countersunk bolts so flat grip surface.
Concave.
Apart from that, if it looks a s nice as a fibreflex I'll take that as a complimnent Yoyo!
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Wow. All that together makes for an uber-board, and if it's a light as the lead-fiber board I was joshing about...incredible! What does a unit like that retail for, though?Michael Stride wrote:Major modern differences are:
15 degree kick stomp rear.
Drilling on the tail (vertically drilled for great truck alignmnent).
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Integrated risers in the bottom surface, shaped for ridgidity and strength where needed
Inserts where bolts go, allowing for countersunk bolts so flat grip surface.
Concave.
I ride fast boards, slowly.
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