ISSA - International Slalom Skateboarding Association

Thank You!!!!!


Major Event Europe 2007


Website of the Race
http://www.skateboardworldcup.com

... count berlin in - team wallcity is in the starting blocks !!!!!

Cologne too !

Ola! That's some good news!
WE actually wanted to stay here in north carolina, but in this case we are definitely stoping by!!! Keep us informed. Looking forward seeing you again.

Heiko and dom

Thanks Detlef for your continued efforts!
Another race in Hannover is good news.

/Jani

Heidi is coming with me!!!

Laura Bissell wrote:Heidi is coming with me!!!

thats gonna be a dangerous trip! I might see you there.

Mike Cividino wrote:

Laura Bissell wrote:Heidi is coming with me!!!

thats gonna be a dangerous trip! I might see you there.

Dangerous, Wicked and Wild!!! That's the way it will be
IT'S ON!

simmer down.. there's enough of the laura and heidi show for all to enjoy..hahahhahaha.. kidding la la.. kidding

so detlef
gib mal nen genauen termin und du kriegst noch etwas besuch von ein paar amis.
ist das ding ne woche nach paris?

you KNOW laura is only coming to see you...

well, suddenly Germany aint so special anymore, Sorry guys, and girls i should say.

http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/000820.html

Oh Mike you are waking an very thin ice right now....

hahahaha
ask dominik

haha, of course im totally joking, but I couldnt resist. And im not sure I want to ask Dom anything about this topic!

Size doesn't matter unless you're talking wheelbase.

Ok, no.....no no.....I won't do it now! I won't give you too much info and tell you what wheelbase you wanna ride......uhmmm....and I don't want to scare anybody, especially you Mike
All I can say is, I always had problems with the EU standard condoms aswell......that's why I'm using extra extra large!

Hey Mike! How many cock push-ups can you do, huh? Ehmmm anyway....when is Hannover going to be?

la la is mine.. back off dirty! hahahaha.. i think mike has an idea about your condoms, considering your panties picture is circulating the internet as we speak

Hey! It was cold, alright?! Ok, let's change the subject.....

Any news about Hannover?

Right now, this is the right time to be in the North shore, maybe Det' is riding giants over there ?!

hey donald,

sorry, but at the moment i don´t know the date.
it depends on the expo summer party, because we will be part of it.

there are two possibilities at the moment
1.-3.june or 8. to 10. june

but maybe if the americans go to paris and after paris to hanover, we will find a way
to have the race on the first weekend in june.

what do the skaters think? remember the party in 2005.


but i have a good news. we find a giant cours with very steep incline
we talk about 15 %. pictures will follow soon.
the location is 5 minutes by car from the expo area.

and now .......party time.
have a nice weekend

super dete
gib gummi und die soone scheint...weisst ja
frohes fest alter und nen guten rutsch

Detlef Rehbock wrote: but maybe if the americans go to paris and after paris to hanover, we will find a way
to have the race on the first weekend in june.

what do the skaters think? remember the party in 2005.

We're trying to make it man! See all you crazy euros next year.

Detlef Rehbock wrote:there are two possibilities at the moment
1.-3.june or 8. to 10. june

but maybe if the americans go to paris and after paris to hanover, we will find a way
to have the race on the first weekend in june.

what do the skaters think? remember the party in 2005.

Hey Detlef!

I know having it June 1-3, right after Paris, would make it a lot more appealing to overseas racers. I would love to try to make it to both events and have some fun time in between.

I hope that you can work that out.

solely depends on if paris and hannover are consecutive weekends.. i'd like to see two races please! plus, laura needs to race in two.. so does marion.. so does cbark.. so do the rest of my boys.. and i really need to drink a weeks worth of alcohol without sulfites, thanks so much!

ok ok BUT May 31-Jun 2 will be also the dates of one of the greatest downhill race in France (perhaps world)
think about versatile euro skateboarders that don't want to miss THE race of 2007 (and some riders of the whole world could be intereted):
May 31-Jun 2 Mont Ventoux, France

ok ok BUT May 31-Jun 2 will be also the dates of one of the greatest downhill race in France (perhaps world)
think about versatile euro skateboarders that don't want to miss THE race of 2007 (and some riders of the whole world could be intereted):
May 31-Jun 2 Mont Ventoux, France

PS DETLEF: you never reply about my jacket that I forgot at the hotel, could you get it??

ok ok BUT May 31-Jun 2 will be also the dates of one of the greatest downhill race in France (perhaps world)
think about versatile euro skateboarders that don't want to miss THE race of 2007 (and some riders of the whole world could be intereted):
May 31-Jun 2 Mont Ventoux, France

PS DETLEF: you never reply about my jacket that I forgot at the hotel mercure last year, did you get it??

hey vinzzz, was it 2006 or 2005?
sorry but i can´t remember.
please describe the jacket. i tought we ask for the jacket,
but i really can´t remember.
so please send me a pm and i´ll try to find out.

is there a website for the downhill event were i can find some informations?
at the moment i try to fix the first weekend in june.

greetz. dete

hey dete,if you don't intend to make your event in a timely manner after paris i have to tell the americans to stay home.they want to come because of the closeness of those 2 races.
that would also be a drag for paris then

you're right Don.
and we want US and canadian riders at our events

The downhill race is an IGSA world cup. Detlef, you can find few info on Silverfish and Ncdsa.

now i want to confirm the date for the hannover slalom world cup.
the date for 2007 is from 1- 3 june 2007
tight and special on the expo area and giant slalom on a steep hill close to the expo area (sarstedt - 5 minutes by car)

YEAH!!!, awesome plan Detlef! I am hoping to attend once again. Watch out Germany!.

perfect dete

that's what i was looking for!!!!!!!!!!

DOES HANNOVER GET A MAIN STATUS NOW?

i asked for a main status and explained, why i want to have one. it´s early in the season, so i think it takes some time. at the moment there are not so many requests for statuses. for me it´s o.k. if we wait a few more weeks.
we work on our event in hannover. in afew days, we wil post some pics from the new giant course. we find a steep hill close to the expo area.
in the american section i find some application forms for race organizers. do we have the same for europe this year? who makes the decision this year? the skate community or some representatives of the issa?

Hi Guys!

Happy New Year.

Detlef here is the link for application. Please fill it out and send it to us. You'll find all the details on the form or the website.

http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/ISSA/ ... cation.doc

MB and I will be trying to do the trip again this year but time will tell.

Donald we just want to Thank you and the family for taking care of us last year so we could make that trip. We hope to see you all soon. EH!

Claude

Does the expo itself have a website?

hey Patrick,

sorry that i didn´t think about that. yes, there is a link to the expo

http://www.expo-park-hannover.de

this site is redesigned. hopefully there are a few informations that are interesting for you.

dete

I met Detlef in Frankfurt at a skateboard expo yesterday. (I also met Heiko there by the way. And YoYo Schultz too.)

About statuses there have been an unofficial rule in the World Rankings before to spread out statuses over the season and geographically. I.e. having two Main statuses one weekend after the other has not been allowed. The European coordinators for 2007 will look it over but I'm just telling what has been the main idea before.

As Claude said, all event organizers for 2007 should have a look at this document

http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/ISSA/ ... cation.doc

But maybe Paris only wants a Prime status this year

so as it is,hannover doesn't get a main?
who decides that?
where are the other potential mains in europe that can rival hannover right now?
i only see flatland grenoble a´nd that's it.
is that how the efforts of an organizer are honored?

maybe next time hannover should not be so close to paris?
then no americans would join the races.
did you guys consider that fact too?

what a strange world...

If Hannover doesn't get main just because it's too close to Paris that would be very dissapointing for a lot of people, especially all the people from America or Canada that will come over to Europe expecting two big competitions. Every year, I have to hear Fred go on about how cool this competition was, bigger and better each year, and now that it's only a week a way from Paris and there will be even more Americans than before, it still won't get a main status?!
Very strange indeed...

the problem the issa will create for themselves here(whoever that is and whoever decides what and for which reason)is,that organizers will get discouraged in holding contests on a longer base.
hannover has all the potential(when combined to the expo festivities) to rival any other european contest.on surface quality hannover is already top notch.
corky,your argument has a broken leg,where are the other 2 mains then.ok you got grenoble,but which other contest gets the main then?
i wanna see that.
frustrating also for our american friends who make the long travel only to fall victim to bureaucracy or sole minded thoughts?

Donald, Corky's thoughts below are unofficial as he states.

About statuses there have been an unofficial rule in the World Rankings before to spread out statuses over the season and geographically. I.e. having two Main statuses one weekend after the other has not been allowed. The European coordinators for 2007 will look it over but I'm just telling what has been the main idea before.

Many of us on the BOD and also the members themselves feel that some Major events held back to back are great and will benefit everyone. Don't forget when the rankings and statuses we're being worked on it was hard to imagine 6, 8 or even 10 possible big events in a year or more.

All of a sudden we have the potential to run big events 15 to 20 times (worldwide) per year. Things have changed along with some of the rulings and decisions from before.

I am one North American that plans on competing in both PWCS & HWCS events this year.

from my point the main advantage in dete`s concept is, that the SLALOM WORLDCUP is just a small part of the big EXPO SUMMERPARTY. i`m not talking about 2006 here okay.

everyone who was there in 2005 knows what i mean with spectators. i mean the weather was not that perfect. but on sunday we had spectators (and they didn`t come cause they wanted to see slalom skateboarding) in two rows along the whole race track. they were yelling and they were stoked to see something, they have not seen before.

i mean when i read the visions of some people here about bringing the whole slalom stuff to a bigger level and showing the masses what conehunting is, HANNOVER is the place for germany.
just some thoughts of a little shabby berlin wall city amateur ...

Well, what can I say? I'm just a dumb young guy, who loves to race with his skateboard, right?
And yes, you are right. I love it. Since I got into this, I made many friends, all over here and among the big pond and I am so thankful for that.
Togehter we feel pleasure and pain.

On the other hand, I feel very disappointed. Don't take me on every word, but my words should't be taken lightly at the same time. I hope it's not only me, who can see that some, who live among us in this small community, are seeking themselves to be above the other, to create something that's separating us within the community. No words need to be spoken to get what they want, if you are involved, and everyone else just has to step back, after already stepping back once. Why does Paris always get a Main ( I heard it is officially Major???) and after all improvements since slalomskateboarding came back to life again, after all... How is a race like Grenoble even possible? Look at the time, look at the map, look on what to expect. Think about earlier discussions, and look who is involved. If you want to try to be objective in this case, and if you cannot have both races rated as main, I think Paris would have to step back this time, which I doubt. So wouldn't the euros 2007 be held on a soft and flat ground. But changes certainly won't happen, and why? Tja, well, I'm just a potlovin' goof, but even I can see that! (And I already pointed it out)

I am one North American that plans on competing in both PWCS & HWCS events this year.

That's some really good news, but sorry, it can't help me (personly) being dissapoited of some peoples sellfishness and none exsisting imagination of fairness....,

You guys don't let decisions be easy to be made.

The central question with that weekend is simply:

Shall I attend HSWC or go to Mont Ventoux?

rmn

Don't you read that Corky is writing that there's a non official rule and it has to be discuss?? It's an indication, nothing is set into concrete for the moment!
So dry your tears and now tell us what are you crying for?
Fast accusations and judgments are just making things worse - they are enemies of collaboration and dialog.

But there's another thing to point... if you're so aware of points and statuses: are 3 main enough for Europe?
Russia got a main, OK, it could interest euros
but I'm surprised to see that the two last main races in our "zone" (East Atlantic) are in Australia and Asia!!
These two will probably be lost again this year and anyway, should it be really considered in the same zone??

4 US + 1 Canada + 1 SouthAmerica (lost probably) - seems a coherent zone even if 5 is perhaps not enough for North America too!!!

Think also that if we do everything to welcome people from everywhere to let them get your precious points probably 3 is not enough..Of course, in any case I want to discourage racers from other continents to come and race in Europe.
I'm just noting that during last years, US races didn't care much about kind of things we are trying to do: easy Euro tour for non-European.
Hope 2007 will be different with easy America's tour for non-American!

I think the Cologne - D'dorf area will support Dete even if its main or not !
It would be great to see some skaters from overseas and like Sven said, the EXPO Fest garantees lots of spectators and events beside the race.

in general i think the potential of a race should be recognized and then given the approprriate status.
but that won't work either.
on the other side i see the two biggest events(in ranking) based in one country.
is that how it works?
just some food for thought!
the main problem i see with that issa thing going on is that there is always one guy replying to criticism and the rest of the "team" is absent.
always the same reaction about things that need to be decided.
questions coming up are:who decides what?
or even better:why hasn't that all been done in advance?

the whole deal is existent for over a year and the issa didn't get their act together yet.

and all of the issa have to live with that criticism,because it's true.
if you want to enforce regulations on any kind of structure you have to have at least the paperwork ready in order to gain credibility.

i see this far from being acceptable in any way.

besides that i always ask myself this:
when i organize a race f.e. and i invest huge amounts of time and money in that venture i get my race "sanctioned" by the issa.
where are my benefits in this?
is the issa flowing money or bringing sponsors to my contest?
will it help me to market my contest?

both questions can be answered with a clear "NO".

so,if you want people to accept you and your body,then you have to work with people and not the other way around.

creating such a body is not only about posting on a site from time to time.continuing conversations on the phone ,at least conference calls should be done in order to make this look at least a bit professional.

how else do you think the vast majority will embrace the issa and the package it has to offer?

i refused to be part of this from day one,because i know how much work is involved.maybe some of the members missed that point.

it's a post here or there and somebody is deciding something that has been decided by the issa(when,where,how,and why).

you have to live with that short essay of criticism,because it reflects the truth.