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Quote of the day...
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2002 8:32 pm
"More TS photos assembled in one place than anywhere on earth! There's nothing like a twisted up European Slalom racer, except a twisted up chick European Slalom racer."
Henry Hester on SlalomSkateboarder.com
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 10:38 pm
Pardon my “loose” interpretation. The meaning is preserved 100%.
A young guy who just started speedskating asks a speedkating world champion:
“When is it going to get easier?”
As a reply he gets:
“It will NEVER get easier, you’ll just go faster”.
Having recently discovered slalom I have also discovered other parts of the slalom package, such as a compulsory rigorous training and set-up tuning. It was really hard in the beginning, and I hoped it’d get easier with time. I know now that the above-mentioned story, that was sent to me by Andrew Muzikin of Russia, is very true for slalom. It is not getting any easier, but it does get faster.
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 2:51 pm
"Slalom is not a sport, it's a discipline"
Vlad Popov, 2002
Insightful. I agree. This is the reason Vlad has developed so quickly.
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 3:06 pm
I agree with Vlad, basically, but would like to add this... Slalom is a discipline and Slalom Racing is a sport.
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 7:00 am
After many hours of rambling philosophical road-trip discussion with John Kim, driving home to the S.F. bay area after the Hood River race... (I'll attribute the quote to both of us since we were *so* rambling.)
"Slalom is a martial art!"
To attain knowledge of one level of the discipline only reveals a deeper level leading to yet another level. Each revealed layer of the onion reveals another mystery.
It's cwaaaaazzzy man!
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 10:11 pm
Well for skills required slalom is much more than you would think at first glance.
Power, strength, agility, balance, coordination, timing, speed, quickness (not the same)are helpful to the racer
Then there is
Equipment Knowledge and set up
Wheel truck and board selection
Strategy against your opponent
Criddleing- to do or not do
Timing and qualification strategies
Bearing cleaning- when to pop in the fast ones/
Then there is dealing with the course
1. the fall line of the course
2. The straightest line through the course (not necessarily the same thing)
3. choosing the right blend of the two.
4. The line your hips must follow
5. The line your board must follow
6. Controlled slides
7 power on or off for technical sections
8. Tucking/being aerodynamic (when is it worth it)
9. Dealing with time advantages and disadvantages in the second race.
10. saving energy
11. To hold back or not....ie when to disclose your cards.
12.Maintaining your balance when behind in time.
13. Going into the mind of the course setter.
So many funny things that keep this simple sport interesting.
Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 1:01 am
After you got all of what John has put together (if your lucky enough) the only things left are money, time and personal commitment.
Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 1:49 am
John, you left out my favorites: Da Image! Da Style! Da Lukes!
Ok, here is another Quote of the Day:
Not long ago I was practicing GS near my house. A teenage boy comes up to me and starts asking questions. I told him about the proper use of the skateboard (slalom), different courses, different styles, boards, blah, blah, blah.
“So what’s this one?”
“This one is a Giant Slalom course”.
“ It’s called Giant because the distance between the cones is noticeably greater then in Tight Slalom”
“Giant slalom looks tight!”
Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 4:17 am
Actually Giant slalom is called giant slalom because Giants excel at it.
Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 4:43 am
Modern “Tight Slalom” seems to favor GIANTS, GS boards&whells, but it is still called Tight. Zup mit Dat?
PS. The guy actually said “Giant Slalom IS tight”.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2002 8:56 pm
I hope I get this quote right. I found it on the webt the other day, and you know what my memory can be like, Eh!
"Coaching is getting people to do what they have to do in order to accomplish what they want to".
Good Luck, Coaches.
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2002 5:21 pm
An all-time favorite of mine:
"Of course practice on a regular basis is necessary and it does make you BETTER....but competition on a regular basis brings out your BEST"
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 1:18 am
John and Vlad,
Come to think about it you left out one more important thing from your skills lists.
Since I couldn't put any of your skills to myself I started to wonder... "Why am I doing slalom?". Well, the answer is to have fun. That's the skill I would like to add. To be able to have fun with it.
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 5:10 pm
Hans, fun is given. Although at times it seems like there is no fun at all.
Quote of the day:
“Slalom is a HORSE sport”
Anatoly Matsukevich (St. Petersburg, Russia), telephone conversation, May 2002.
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 5:38 pm
Forgot to put it in the context.
“A good slalom practice takes as much energy as a 40-kilometer inline skate”. Therefore, Slalom is a horse sport
Same person, same time, same place.
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2002 6:46 am
I LOVE running cones... That said, it CAN be gruelling work!
I skated over 30lbs off my 49 year old body, starting with La Costa 2001 last November. I had just gotten back into skateboarding a couple months earlier.
I think the fun can actually drive you beyond your normal tolerance for pain, and you end up dripping wet, huffing and puffing back up the hill, trying to make cleaner, faster lines down the hill.
Sometimes there's a gab session taking place, and I'm taking 2 and 3 runs between every other single run by others. People are laughing at my huffing and puffing (carefully synchronized with my pumps thank you!) I get swept away with the momentum of the session and that's FUN (and PAIN!)
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2002 5:55 pm
A double daily double:
Quote of the day #1:
Both quotes are by Anatoly Matsukevich (ISSA best ranked skater in 1994 based on the results of the 3 previous years): First is from Slalom! # 16, August 1992, pg. 18. Second is from a telephone conversation, June 2002:
1. "Slalom will last forever"
2. "Slalom is a dead sport"
Quote of the day #2:
"I will never race competitively again."
"I WILL continue to race - but only on my secret hills in my secret area on my secret boards - and only for the pure joy of pumping."
12/8/2000, NCDSA.com slalom forum
Paul Dunn. 2002 FCR Series Champion, Turner Team Captain.
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2002 9:20 pm
"I do get weary of racers telling me what racers need. Please remember I was a racer once also."
I found this quote at http://www.slalomskateboarder.com
It was posted by an individual who has done a lot for the sport of slalom skateboarding. Obviously is/was written under duress.
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 2:51 am
"I do get weary of racers telling me what racers need. Please remember I was a racer once also." - Jack Smith
I was under no duress at all. Just stating a fact.
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 5:55 am
Jack, the post was not meant to be pointed at you. It's a post to bring about the reality of give give give, that's it.
I have no complaints, only accolades for FCR.
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 6:55 am
Just wanted to say that I was in no way upset or offended by Adam's post.
We're hard at work on next year's FCR Series.
I would like to encourage everyone to organize grass roots events in your local area. Please email or call me if I can be of assistance.
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 12:16 am
Dave G (Mountain State Slalom Skate race organizer) wrote in from 208.29.xxx.xxx:
"Grooves on a urethane wheel, do very little! Urethane and water don't mix! If you want to channel the water out from under the wheel ,than you can try to create a trough effect to the sides. But it is still a futile attempt. Rubber wheels are the gripiest in those conditions!"
Interesting comments from the organizer of a race that was held in the rain.
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Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 6:39 pm
My favorite quote:
"Pain is Fear leaving the body"
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 4:19 am
Rick Stanziale said to me walking back up the hill, he pointed to his board, "Slalom not here" then he points to his head, "Slalom here".
Slalom racing is not only in the equipment you ride, the biggest part is mental toughness on the race course.
Great one Rick!
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 8:24 pm
Another good one, and fresh one too!:
"Longboarding is the gateway drug to slalom"
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 10:51 pm
Too much talk, not enough slalom.
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 11:07 pm
Simon, if you’re looking for slalom in virtual reality, you’ll only find “virtual” slalom
On 2003-04-17 16:51, Simon Levene wrote:
Too much talk, not enough slalom.
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 12:20 pm
On 2003-07-22 00:33, Vlad Popov wrote:
...Kill an extra bug, get $40, mail me your check. Act fast.
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 2:36 pm
On 2003-07-25 10:51, Chris Stepanek wrote:
...I'll pay more JUST to pump...
the new slogan for pvd r3's?
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 6:52 pm
So this guy tells me he is going out in the rain to do some slides to clean off his slalom wheels.
"Well be careful....don't bust your ass its really slipper....."
He interrupted without hesitation
"that's alright, its already going to happen."
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 8:06 pm
On 2002-12-02 16:40, A-RAB wrote:
You have been blackballed from NCDSA because you tried to spread the good word of Slalom, Dont you know that NCDSA is a monopoly and if you cant play by the rules you cant play the game. Rules..... its a F%ckin chat room gimme a break. If there is somebody that is spreading the good word of slalom then power to ya!!!!! Why hasnt everyother website that caters to slalom been removed from NCDSA. Because they advertize, maybe you should advertise on NCDSA then you could get back on?
entire thread found...<a href=viewtopic.php?topic=347&forum=106
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 2:21 am
It does appear Eric Groff's personality disorder popped up again.
No surprise. He was caught at the other site for posting under fake names (with email addresses) giving himself props and bashing the people he hates.
The 'new' search capability made it really easy to figure out he was 'Jason Martinez - Evangelist & Manufacturer', 'TC - Texas Clem', 'Sk8dude', and 'Rodney King'
The spelling of 'begineer' really gives it away. Some of those posts where he was praising himself are a little creepy.
I also love how the post that pointed it all out was deleted and all of his other personalities were moved to the 'Guest Book'!
I guess Sybil
is now a better name than Eric Groff.
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 3:09 am
And once again the other forum is safe and boring for those whose shorts (and cones) are too tight.
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 4:13 am
Shorts? We couldn't get them tight enough!
Vlad, WesE, and I have been secretly training with Speedos!
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 4:16 am
Vlad, WesE, and I have been secretly training with Speedos!
Together? That's creepy.
But don't tell TSFGOATISITCOHEC: he'll want pictures!
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 4:17 am
Dam and hear Marcos and I thought we could run some cones with TC-Tex Clem. Oh well just when we thought there was another slalom skater in the Lone Star State. I tell you what some people just aint right in the head. Eddy Texas Outlaw.
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 5:02 am
On 10/8/2003 HACKETT - BLACK LEATHER RACING wrote in from 67.23.xxx.xxx:
Man, you guys are really going at it...Arab, you are my bro and we go back many, many years. I don't know why you and Chaput can't come to some sort of mutual respect for one and other...and stop this tit for tat bullcrap! You are both great all around riders...and Chaput is not only a multiple World Champion in more than one discipline of skateboarding (Freestyle and Speedboarding) but also puts his ass and pocketbook on the line to further the great aray of products out there so asses like us have a variety of choices when it comes to equipment to choose from.
I am grateful for that, and I personally think the both of you are really great characters that I have had the pleasure to know and ride with.
It is true that 3dM wheels have won more races than any other wheel; but Abec 11 also makes some killer wheels to round out one's quiver. Let's not forget that I rode Abec 11's to victory at the Bear last year and this year as well as 3dm Avila's (different runs on each) and Olson rode Abec 11 greens to victory to capture The much coveted Kona Banked slalom race two years in a row on Abec 11's. I have yet to try the new Gumballs, but can't wait to get a couple sets!
According to my sales reports many, many people ride Deathbox decks set up with Abec 11 No Schools and love the ride!
I, myself, reserve the right to ride whatever board, trucks or wheels will work on whatever course or terrain we are racing on; you never know when you come across a course where Gumballs are THE wheel that day! I know I'll have my set ready, as well as my 3dm's, OJ's, Road Riders (4's, and Hesters) and Abecs, Gravity wheels, Cherry bombs and more!!
I will also have all my quiver of decks ready: my Pockit Pistols, my Turners, my Deathboxs, my Fibreflexs, my Dregs, and my Ick Sticks!!! (Now if I can just get my hands on that Bonita Roe that Gareth and Hester promised me last year!)
Let's try to be respectful of each others inventions, and products and not limit ourselves to becoming an "only game in town player" Diversity is good, so is healthy competion between brands, teams, crews, and competitors (even coasts; if it's handled correctely.)
BLACK LEATHER RACING
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 5:59 pm
I still think the best quote came from me many months ago:
"Isn't being the fastest guy in Slalom kind of like being the toughest guy in band?"
I think that's terribly funny!
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 6:14 pm
I do hope you all know that I am just playing! HR
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 8:53 pm
A funny quote story from Morro Bay:
It was Sunday afternoon in Morro Bay and the suspense from the tight slalom was starting to get high. Slowly photographers and cameramen took their place 10-15 meters after the finish line. David Hackett was in place in his chair with his swollen foot and video camera. A sight we had all got used to by now, after 3 days of competition. Behind and on the sides of him others had joined in with cameras to get those final runs. Steve Olson also had joined the group to cheer up his friend David a little. Those guys are really funny together and half of the joy of the finals was just standing there with my camera listening to some of their smack talk. But more of this later on in another story from Morro.
It was the pro semi finals going on and Mollica and Gilmour had just run over the finish line in their second run. It was very close and no one knew the outcome. I had my camera rolling and got in front of Mollica and Gilmour when they slowly walked back up the side of the course. They both waited for the final announcement while talking nervously with each other. The final judgement took time and each second felt like a minute. I was still walking backwards in front of them with the camera in my hand. Finally it came. The winner was Kenny Mollica. He had beaten John Gilmour only with a few hundreds of a second.
- Hey man, what about this quote you promised us?
- Sure, hold out. I'm just there.
- That's what you always say...
- Ok, just let me continue.
Now suddenly I was halfway up the course and the next race was about to start. The junior final. Quickly I turned off the camera to run down to take my place among the others again. I could hear the preparation for the start of the next heat. Once down there I had just the time to think, "Yes, I made it!", before I heard Steve Olson say:
- "Corky! You passed the finish line!"
They where using these infrared things for measuring times. I responded in chock...
- "I did? Oh, shit!"
...well aware of the complete embarrassment if I had done this while the junior final was under way. Luckily, when my eyes looked up towards the start ramps, the boys where still standing on them. Huh! Steve continued:
- "Corky, you can't pass the finish line EVEN though you are a camera man."
Relieved that my stupid mistake hadn't caused any big harm...
- "No, you're right ...pause... Did anyone get my time?
No response. They probably didn't know if I was joking or not. Do I need to tell I was quiet as a mouse after that?
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 5:31 pm
"I still think its sad that a few manufacturers and promoters in the US slalom community are used by one person for his own psychotic tirades. If they want respect they should publicly tell him to stop propping himself up using their work to attack the very people they supposedly support.
It's easy to stand back and criticize the 'fans' of the flame. If you really want to stop the 'fire' go right to the source."
Fanners not fans
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 6:21 pm
Deleted by Jack Smith on December 14th, 2003.
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 1:05 am
Here’re my 6 quotes <i>for</i> the day to help fight the fire.
Respect is earned, not bought.
What seems like a good short-term deal might end up being a disaster in the long run.
What comes around goes around. Hatred is not an exception.
If you don’t know what you’re getting yourself into, you’re probably wasting not only your own time.
It is up to the industry to decide what and where to advertise. It is up to the customers to decide what and where to buy.
People who say “Bomb for peace!” on one site and then ask “Why can’t we all just get along?” on another site know exactly what they are doing.
Glenn S Club member since November 2003.
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:30 am
Quote of the Day " DUDES RATTLESNAKE " interesting how a nine foot rattler will make a bunch of skaters take off pumping in different directions. Including yours truly. Eddy Texas Outlaw.
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 4:02 am
I was 43 at the start of the season(now 44) and I am not as athletic as I once was.
if i had a dime for every guy older and faster than me that said that, i would be kicking Bill Gate a$s.
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:09 pm
“We didn’t start the fire”
“But the castle's crumbled
and you're left with just a name.
Where's your crown, King Nothing?”
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 1:33 pm
Economasher: "Slalom is like a fine bottle of wine only the wealthy should have it... Slalom is like a fat Cuban cigar only the macho should puff it... Slalom is like a perfect wave only the soulful should ride it... Slalom is like riding you mountain bike thru the forest only the adventurous should do it ... Slalom is like snow skiing thru tight gates of powder at speed... Slalom is like riding your dirt bike across the desert dodging cactus... Slalom is like surfing Waikiki around tourist on a crowded swell. Slalom is like RUINED by you no respect crybabies who just don't get it... Slalom is suppose to be fun!! FUN! FUN !! FUN !!! I don't race slalom anymore but I live it, I coach it, I like it, I promote it... I say bury it and bring it back when the disease is gone >>>>>>>> I'll wait and do it again.. Underground racing is the future only real people need attend!
Tight gates of powder? Did I miss something?
I, along with the help of Jani Soderhall, John Gilmour, Henry Hester, Jack Smith, Terence Kirby, Howard Gordon and many other slalom enthusiasts put together this web site to promote skateboard slalom so it wouldn't die or go underground to be reborn again. We put it together with an intelligent approach and nothing less.
I think the above quote says alot and at the same time, it says nothing.
You decide for yourself what slalom skateboarding is to you.
If your name is one on the list above and you want me to remove it, private e-mail me or message and I will remove it no problem, silently.
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:20 pm
I'd like to apologize. The post here that I have since deleted was not appropriate and was out of line. It was posted in frustration over something that happened at a WLAC slalom event. I have since talked by phone to the person I offended and apologized personally to them.
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 7:05 am
Rich Stephens wrote:There's always the possibility that some people have better things to do than sit around typing messages on the computer! I wish I was one of those people.
BTW, I don't see how participation here promotes the sport: we're simply preaching to the choir here.
Quote of the day.
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 2:45 am
Get on with your life