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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 11:18 am
by Joseph Eagle
i got a turner g/s hybrid and am wonering whether or not i need washers under my mounting hardware to protect the board? came stock with risers underneath but do i need some small washers to stop the bolts being pulled in? will they be fine as is. i know it's not a classic turner but i still only have 1 slalom board and want it to last. it has stock bolts not countersunk.

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 12:54 am
by Wesley Tucker
Joseph,

If you go to a home supply/hardware store, you can find some Bonded Neoprene Washers. These are convex washers with neoprene liners. Use them with your mounting hardware. These will not only put a bigger footprint for your bolt head to cover on the top of your board, the neoprene liner prevents anything from cutting into your fiberglas.

Also, I use a little triple redundancy with my hardware. First, I use stainless bolts with nylon locknuts. I also use the neoprene lined washer. Then, with what might seen like overkill, I also use a lock washer between the lock nut and the hangar baseplate. It's not that I'm afraid of my bolt coming loose, but I ABSOLUTELY HATE hearing any chatter or rattle from my hardware when I ride. The neoprene washer coupled with the expanding and contracting lock washer eliminate any chance of there being any play in my mounting bolts. Thus, I can get a really tight fit without pulling too tight into my board and there's no chance of any rattle coming up from a bolt not sitting completely snug on the board.

With fiberglas boards, it's a very delicate balance between a tight fit on your trucks and screwing down the nut so tight that all of a sudden you see the bolt head on the other side sinking into your board and crushing the fiberglas. Not good. Also, the fiberglas/foam combination has a little bit of "breathing" to it as it gets warm and then cold. Plus, flexing the board causes hell on the tightness of your mounting bolts. If you use the lined washers and the lock nuts, everything stays tight, there's no chatter and your board is free of any depressions or crush marks from your mounting bolts digging in too deep.

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 2:19 am
by Dan Mitchell
Joseph,
I think Wesley is talking about the Turner foam boards. For your GS/H you can just put "fender washers" under your bolt heads.
Unless, of course, you are as anal about such things as Wes. :smile:

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 3:18 am
by Wesley Tucker
Fender washers? What's wrong with Rickenbacker?

Actually, Dan, I've heard that bolt rattle on all kinds of boards, be it foam, wood ply or glas-wrapped wood. It's not just the material, it's the fact that it flexes that leads to the irritating side affect.

I know, there's probably a few reading this saying, "well, I've never heard my mounting equipment rattling or chattering on my Turner Hybrid" Probably not. I would suggest, though, checking in with me when your board is 10-15 years older.

Then we'll talk :smile:

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2003 12:54 am
by Joseph Eagle
thanks

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 11:19 pm
by Mike Maysey
You don't need washers on the GS/Hbrid or GS/Hybrid XL. Get some phillips head hardware with the largest heads you can find. Those will suffice.